Perso je trouve la position de Pierre assez equilibrée...

Merci !!! J'essaye de ménager la chèvre et le chou mais ce n'est pas simple. Je peux comprendre qu'un Russe supporte son pays et son président tandis qu'un Americain ou un Français vont considérer que ce n'est pas compatible avec la sitiuation actuelle.
Même si je désaprouve la guerre en Ukraine je trouve totallement disproportionné ce qui se passe en ce moment par rapport à l'inaction des occidentaux quand les USA ont foutu une merde sans nom au moyen orient.
En quoi la vie d'un Irakien ou d'un Lybien aurait - elle moins d'importance que celle d'un Ukrainien ???
Pourquoi y'a t-il des guerres propres et des guerres sales selon ce qui arrange les occidentaux ???
Donc oui j'essaye de rester le plus neutre possible et juste analyser les faits mais il est évident que même ça, ce n'est pas acceptable pour ceux qui veulent qu'on soit forcement de leurs avis !!!

Mois ce que je sais c'est que mon litre d'essence ou diesel coute 1,30 euros en Hongrie et que les pays "gentils" comme la Slovakie et L'autriche qui sont des fervents défenseur de la politique de sanction contre la Russie font la queue pour venir acheter leur essence et leur bouffe ici tout en disant qu'Orban est un dictateur !!!
Quel monde d'hypocrites ...
et évidemment la presse étrangère raconte n'importe quoi pour palier à l'incompétence de l'Europe qui assassine ses contribuable tandis qu'Orban refuse de se plier aux ordres de Bruxelles pour aider son peuple.
Les stations service sont prises d'assault, les supermachés sont "over" avec cette manne de clients venus des pays voisins mais évidemment pour les journalistes de Paris ça ne va pas et payer le litre à 2 euros c'est mieux !!!
et bien sûr il y a des aujourd'hui un effet boomerang sur le gaz ...
mais en même temps les gros bras eux s' "autofist" avec plaisir :
L'allemagne aussi apprement mais on en parle pas dans la presse francophone .

et la patronne continue à chanter l'inverse :
Donc oui un joli panier de crabes l'union europèenne !!!

PW

Il est clair que certains qui accusent la russie de tous les vices trouvent bien des "vertus" aux guerres américaines, alors que les champions du monde toute catégorie pour ce qui est de foutre un bordel sans nom sur terre sont bel et bien les Usa, il n'y a qu'à voir le budget américain consacré à l'armement et donc à la guerre pour s'en convaincre, il est extremement révélateur

tango75jlb wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:24 pm

Il est clair que certains qui accusent la russie de tous les vices trouvent bien des "vertus" aux guerres américaines, alors que les champions du monde toute catégorie pour ce qui est de foutre un bordel sans nom sur terre sont bel et bien les Usa, il n'y a qu'à voir le budget américain consacré à l'armement et donc à la guerre pour s'en convaincre, il est extremement révélateur

The funny thing is that Europe is flying vertically headlong into the crisis, while stocks of U.S. military companies, have skyrocketed. The American military-industrial complex has an overwhelming lobbying influence on the American political elite. They are even ready to collapse their economy, just to get extra profits from the sale of weapons. And so it was in any war organized or instigated by the U.S. and NATO in the world. The profits went to American companies, all the financial assets of other states, logically went from the conflict zone to the United States.
The leaders of the U.S. and Western countries are not even hiding the fact that they have been pumping weapons into Ukraine over the past few years, without helping it economically. And at first they said that "aggressive" Russia attacked "poor" Ukraine without an army.

This is what the absolute lack of sovereignty of a state leads to. It is pathetic to look at the European countries, how they are killing themselves to please the U.S. Call me a cynic, I'll tell you the truth. I am good to many ordinary Europeans, I am friends with them, but I really don't feel sorry for Europe right now. For stupidity and the sale of sovereignty, there is a price to pay. This is the harsh truth of life. The U.S. has been coaching Europe to confront Russia all along. Then, it will also be coaching it to confront China and other countries who will challenge its hegemony in the world. And Europe is expendable. And this is the situation created by Europe's dumb political elite. And the Europeans, continue to vote for these fools. How funny it is now to look at Scholz, who doesn't want to, but still, can't say no to the general Western conjuncture. Germany can't even scrape together a hundred rusty tanks in its army to send to Ukraine. There it is, the constant hope of U.S. military protection. It is very convenient not to spend your GDP on the Army. There is no army of its own, and now the Americans, with their fantasies about an aggressive Russia, are forcing Europe to buy weapons from American companies. They have provoked Russia into aggression, and now they frighten Europe with it. And Europe has no money without it, and they still "suck up" to the Americans, and do everything to their own detriment.

tango75jlb wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:24 pm

Il est clair que certains qui accusent la russie de tous les vices trouvent bien des "vertus" aux guerres américaines,

nothing what others did the past is an excuse for the invasion of the ukraine by russia

Apollo13 wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 28, 2022 9:55 am

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https://t.me/margaritasimonyan/11250

Apollo13 wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:57 am

https://t.me/margaritasimonyan/11250

What did she say wrong?
When, the British defense minister and his deputy are so cocky that they publicly declare that they will supply the Ukrainian regime with missiles to hit Russian cities. They have probably forgotten that their island can be destroyed by a single Sarmat or Poseidon missile. Or do they think that Russia will tolerate such insolence all the time? Or do they think Russia is bluffing and won't even launch non-nuclear strikes on US and British territories? In vain, they think so! It is dangerous for life! Putin clearly said: "We don't give a fuck who is a 'member' of what! Anyone who interferes in the course of our special operation in Ukraine will be sorry!" What's not to understand?
First of all, don't fuck around with your dirty snout where their existential interests, not historical, not geographical, not cultural, can't be. Don't fucking threaten sovereign countries with your NATO, don't fucking provoke other nations into conflict, don't fucking ruin other nations and kill people.
Yes, if it comes to a nuclear war, which we wouldn't want, I don't think there will be any winners.
But as Putin said, "We'll go to Heaven and they'll just die!"

First you wanted to ridicule it as a fake and after that was no longer possible, you defend it the message.

Apollo13 wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 28, 2022 12:31 pm

First you wanted to ridicule it as a fake and after that was no longer possible, you defend it the message.

What nonsense.
I've known Margarita Simonyan, the director of Russia Today, for a long time. I am subscribed to her Telegram channel, and I read this message this morning. It's just that the stupid Nexta decided that by reposting Simonyan's message to Telegram, some kids like you would see it as an emotional message. But, in my opinion, Putin is too soft, and it's high time he stopped being coy with you.