RUSSIA - UKRAINE 2022 CONFLICT

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El Major wrote:
Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:26 pm

I think you focus on a lot of things but lose the main picture a little bit even though you have mentioned the suffering of the Ukraine poeole after a while. . Anything you can use to critizise western leaders wehter its true or false you take with both arms instanstly but you are very apologetic and understanding when it comes to Putins actions and motivation.

The most important thing is that Russia was not under threat but started a war in the heart of Europe anyways. This has shocked the world and rightfully so. All the other things is secondary.
You are absolutely 100% correct. Pierre is very contradictory. He says he is against war and supports the Ukraine but he has not even spent 1 moment to criticize the atrocities of Putin. Instead he spends more time criticizing the West and EU, blaming them, which I find disturbing and questionable, considering the horrors of Putins actions. It's mind blowing that he avoids this. He rather publicate about Facebook and Zuckerberg, a man who killed nobody 🙄 Instead he shields Putin and turns a blind eye to what he has done. This man who has destroyed a nation! The war in Ukraine is the primary focus Everything else is secondary as you say, but Pierre doesn't tackle the main culprit responsible. He speaks on trivial issues which pale in comparison to the severe magnitude of Putins destructive actions! I find this annoying!

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Assterix wrote:
Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:20 pm
El Major wrote:
Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:26 pm

I think you focus on a lot of things but lose the main picture a little bit even though you have mentioned the suffering of the Ukraine poeole after a while. . Anything you can use to critizise western leaders wehter its true or false you take with both arms instanstly but you are very apologetic and understanding when it comes to Putins actions and motivation.

The most important thing is that Russia was not under threat but started a war in the heart of Europe anyways. This has shocked the world and rightfully so. All the other things is secondary.
You are absolutely 100% correct. Pierre is very contradictory. He says he is against war and supports the Ukraine but he has not even spent 1 moment to criticize the atrocities of Putin. Instead he spends more time criticizing the West and EU, blaming them, which I find disturbing and questionable, considering the horrors of Putins actions. It's mind blowing that he avoids this. He rather publicate about Facebook and Zuckerberg, a man who killed nobody 🙄 Instead he shields Putin and turns a blind eye to what he has done. This man who has destroyed a nation! The war in Ukraine is the primary focus Everything else is secondary as you say, but Pierre doesn't tackle the main culprit responsible. He speaks on trivial issues which pale in comparison to the severe magnitude of Putins destructive actions! I find this annoying!

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Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:15 am
FOR THIS OBVIOUS REASON I CAN'T SPEAK ONLY ABOUT THE LIVES TAKEN BY PUTIN BECAUSE HE IS ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR RUSSIANS DEAD ONES TOO !!!
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Isn't this a criticism of Putin?

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In my opinion it's actually the opposite. It's sympathetic tolerance.

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Interesting video but I am not at all phased by it and have no sympathy towards Russia as it's no excuse for Putins actions. At the end of the day, Ukraine does not need to be bullied by Russia. Putin is an authoritarian who started a war on his own and there is no excuse in the world that can make it any less justified!!! It's that simple!. Nobody cares about the instigator because Putin is the initiator. Actions speaks louder than words. His actions have led to what is happening now.

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Absolutely no any sympathy for the war and I don't support anyone making it !!!

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He says he is against war and supports the Ukraine but he has not even spent 1 moment to criticize the atrocities of Putin. Instead he spends more time criticizing the West and EU, blaming them, which I find disturbing and questionable, considering the horrors of Putins actions. It's mind blowing that he avoids this.
Of course I am fucking angry when I see a bomb killing innocent people, what do you think ???
But let me tell you one thing :

When I was a from 10 to 14 years old there was a group of people 4 to 6 years older ( 2 of them was adult when the big clash came up ) and one day when I was alone playing tennis on a wall they went behind me seat down and started again the same usual shit they where doing for so long and that day ... I exploded and started to fight very bad and with an energy they did not expected. When I stopped the most "damaged" was the 2 adults, one of them was missing a jaw, and the other one had his nose lying on his cheek and one eye partly protruding from its socket.
Part of the group went to seek help from the tennis club concierge. An ambulance arrived very quickly but also the police and I was taken to the police station where my father could pick me up only late in the evening even if I was 14.
I found myself in the local newspaper and I was necessarily the bad wild primitive guy from the forest with no education and mental problems. The parents of the two adults did everything pushing them to sue me but strangely they did not do it
My exclusion from the Tennis club was obvious but the director organized a meeting with the parents of the others bullies who were also teenagers telling them:
"your kids have been making life hard for a child ALONE for years and no one has done anything to stop it. His violent and brutal action is certainly awful but is not the result of a desire for violence but just like a fuse lit on a powder keg causing it to explode !!!
And he kept me in the club and nobody ever gave me a problem there again after that. Even everyone was super kind to me like never before ...

It was the second time in my life where I had a problem of this level but the first time I had set a trap for two guys older than me and only had to defend myself without it goes so far after the clash ( I broke an ankle on one of them with a big stone ) !!!

I bring this up here because I have the feeling Putin is no more a monster in 2022 than Kennedy was in 1962 when he was at one millimeter away from starting a nuclear war if the Russians implanted warheads in Cuba.
He was even prepared to blow up an American plane with 500 passengers on board to justify the attack on the Bay of Pigs.
It was the Minister of the Interior at the time who convinced him to cancel this madness.

So I repeat, I am against this war, I am against the invasion of Ukraine and I am for peace. But I have many Russian friends as many Ukrainian friends who harass me every day, each telling me the opposite thing.
It's a complicated situation for me and I'm sorry to say it but Putin is not Hitler, he did not decide one morning to raze a country and kill all its inhabitants or destroy the jews but simply after taking a hammer blow to the foot from the Americans and Europeans the world is surprised that he is invading Ukraine.

But honestly why can't people see that if he wanted to destroy this country it would have taken 5 minutes ???

There is no intention to kill anyone else than some Nazi groups ( even if unfortunately there are deaths on each side even lot of civilians and child which is something horrible) but I get tired of the press trying to manipulate us on the orders of the political leaders

You have to understand that being Canada, Mexico or Cuba, Ukraine, etc. means not dealing with the enemies of your powerful neighbor.
I'm not saying it's fair but it's the way it is and neither you nor I will ever change that !!!

To help democracy Clinton, Bush and Obama for 25 years have started 9 wars causing 11 million deaths but no one considers them "bad guys" and even less accuses them of the slightest crime !!!

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even United States President Barack Obama got the Nobel Prize medal and diploma ...

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Here the list of the USA war they started since 2000 : https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des ... États-Unis


Ukraine must once again become a friendly country of Russia and never stop listening to the songs of sirens from the west, which seeks nothing more than to create the same chaos in Europe as in the Middle East !!!


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PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:55 am

I bring this up here because I have the feeling Putin is no more a monster in 2022 than Kennedy was in 1962 when he was at one millimeter away from starting a nuclear war if the Russians implanted warheads in Cuba.
He was even prepared to blow up an American plane with 500 passengers on board to justify the attack on the Bay of Pigs.
It was the Minister of the Interior at the time who convinced him to cancel this madness.


PW
Should've, could've, would've but he didn't!!! You can try and tip toe around this situation with nonsensical views all you want but honestly your comments really infuriate me because it's so insensitive and distant from reality. You are living in fantasy world Pierre and your constant efforts to portray Putin as a good man for killing people and using diversions about other irrelevant people as excuses to the current situation, is absolutely astounding!
PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: It's a complicated situation for me and I'm sorry to say it but Putin is not Hitler, he did not decide one morning to raze a country and kill all its inhabitants or destroy the jews but simply after taking a hammer blow to the foot from the Americans and Europeans the world is surprised that he is invading Ukraine.
:shock: :shock: :shock: I am just flabbergasted that in your mind you sympathize with a man who killed so many people and can tell that he is not Hitler. You're no different than him if this is the way you think to defend a man who knew damn well that his actions was going to kill innocent people. I cannot read this nonsense any longer!!!
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Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:55 am



Ukraine must once again become a friendly country of Russia and never stop listening to the songs of sirens from the west, which seeks nothing more than to create the same chaos in Europe as in the Middle East !!!


PW
Sorry but why should Ukraine live in fear and be bullied by Russia just because they don't share the same ideas???? They are a free country and should not be held hostage. Again you blame the west and haven't come to your senses that Putin is the one responsible and who took action. You should listen to yourself speak because it sounds like you are saying Ukraine deserved this for not expecting it.

When 911 happened, the Americans probably should have expected it, but does it take away who the actions came from??? Who cares the reason. Innocent lives were lost and families affected. Action was taken with the intent to kill people. Same as Putin but you are completely oblivious to this!
PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:55 am
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But honestly why can't people see that if he wanted to destroy this country it would have taken 5 minutes ???


PW
You are funny :lol: :lol: :lol: because if it was that easy and he fucked Ukraine in 5minutes, he would have to face wrath of the rest of the supporting countries!!!
There is no intention to kill anyone else than some Nazi groups ( even if unfortunately there are deaths on each side even lot of civilians and child which is something horrible)
Do you honestly read what you type? :shock:
So you're saying it's ok to kill people even if some civillian lives were necessary... What bullshit is this? You cannot be serious.
You have to understand that being Canada, Mexico or Cuba, Ukraine, etc. means not dealing with the enemies of your powerful neighbor.
this is just bullying. Period. Nobody should lick the ass of anyone they don't wish. I know you won't do it. Why should they? Because they must live in fear?

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My god it's impossible to convince anyone the world is round if they want see it flat !!!
Should've, could've, would've but he didn't!!!
Of course because Russian didn't put the weapons in Cuba but NATO already started implant weapons in Ukrain !!!
This is the reason of this conflict and of course I am not supporting the war and of course I am nervous Putin makes Ukrain suffering but STOP to say he is the only responsible of this sad situation and just admit occident has a part of responsability in this disaster !!!

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PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:25 pm
My god it's impossible to convince anyone the world is round if they want see it flat !!!
Off course you always know more than the scientists and other people of the world in their respective fields of expertise :lol: stick to porn you are better at that.
Putun is the one responsible. He acted. Nobody else. Simple as that.
It's clear we cannot come to an agreement on political views. So I say no more.

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PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:25 pm
My god it's impossible to convince anyone the world is round if they want see it flat !!!
That's why I stopped posting in the Ukraine topic, you can't have a smart debate with fanatics. So now Putin is a massmurderer? According to whom? Western media? Come on people, use your common sense.

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PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:25 pm
I am not supporting the war and of course I am nervous Putin makes Ukrain suffering but STOP to say he is the only responsible of this sad situation and just admit occident has a part of responsability in this disaster !!!

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You keep saying you don't support war but you continue condone Putins action. All you do is contradictions back and forth. Make up your mind. You either support his destructive ways or you sympathize with Ukraine. There's no option C. It's black and white. You want to make decoy and for everyone see he is not responsible. I don't support this.

A person can tickle the ass of someone else, but it doesn't give motivation or reason for him to turn around and kill that person. It says alot about the person who cannot harness self control. Putin clearly could not control himself and you people make excuse for all what he does!!!

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