RUSSIA - UKRAINE 2022 CONFLICT

Jean · Post by **Jean** » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:40 pm

Bombardement barbare d'un hôpital pédiatrique, l'ONU est choqué, ça se comprends

Jean · Post by **Jean** » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:55 pm

El Major wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:37 pm

But when USA EU and Great Britain puts heavy sanctions on Russia its obviously worse for Russia.

Great Britain is garbage, you know what they say when they have Ukrain Refugee knocking to their door ? They say "no no, go to France or Belgium", and after they put their "white knights" uniform again, hypocrite garbage stuff
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/br ... 022-03-07/

El Major · Post by **El Major** » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:56 pm

Jean wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:55 pm

El Major wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:37 pm

But when USA EU and Great Britain puts heavy sanctions on Russia its obviously worse for Russia.

Great Britain is garbage, you know what they say when they have Ukrain Refugee knocking to their door ? They say "no no, go to France or Belgium", and after they put their "white knights" uniform again, hypocrite garbage stuff
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/br ... 022-03-07/

I agree 100%

ragingboner · Post by **ragingboner** » Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:15 pm

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:42 pm

But as far as I can read across different media worldwide the US rejected this.
Yes right but yesterday it was supposed be as I said !!!

Guys to be honest I am tired about this thread where obviously there will be always a part of the people with an idea and another with the opposite one !!!

I will tell once again and for the last time that I DON'T SUPPORT THE ACTION OF VLADIMIR PUTIN IN UKR AND I AM ON THE SIDE OF THE UKRAINIAN BUT I THINK THIS WAR WILL HAVE NEVER BORN IF THE EU and USA DIDN'T PUSHED THE WAY THEY DID ABOUT USING UKRAIN FOR IMPLANT NATO MORE ON EAST !!!

Now about the final part of the story I will not comment more because obviously we have some super brain here able to know what will be end ...
I am watching the news from far away and will restart to comment here in April when back in Hungary ...

PW

PS : @ElMajor, I hope you like your new watch because maybe Russian stock market collaps but for now as far I heard from my family in France and friends in Germany, the people are not so happy about the price flying away everywhere and nobody in Brussels cares about africans not getting the wheat and many vital product from Russia for their survey !!!

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I mean i'm gonna gonna bother with the discussion much after this, but NATO wasn't pushing Ukraine to be in NATO. Ukraine was pushing itself to be in NATO. In fact Ukraine wasn't likely to be NATO anytime soon, if ever. Them joining EU, eventually would have been more likely. But it's pretty clear that perhaps Ukraine should have been allowed to join NATO.

And this nonsense about Russia demanding that Ukraine or any other countries can't join NATO is essentially like an abusive husband threatening a victim when they signal they want to leave. It's like victim blaming.

El Major · Post by **El Major** » Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:26 pm

ragingboner wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:15 pm

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:42 pm

But as far as I can read across different media worldwide the US rejected this.
Yes right but yesterday it was supposed be as I said !!!

Guys to be honest I am tired about this thread where obviously there will be always a part of the people with an idea and another with the opposite one !!!

I will tell once again and for the last time that I DON'T SUPPORT THE ACTION OF VLADIMIR PUTIN IN UKR AND I AM ON THE SIDE OF THE UKRAINIAN BUT I THINK THIS WAR WILL HAVE NEVER BORN IF THE EU and USA DIDN'T PUSHED THE WAY THEY DID ABOUT USING UKRAIN FOR IMPLANT NATO MORE ON EAST !!!

Now about the final part of the story I will not comment more because obviously we have some super brain here able to know what will be end ...
I am watching the news from far away and will restart to comment here in April when back in Hungary ...

PW

PS : @ElMajor, I hope you like your new watch because maybe Russian stock market collaps but for now as far I heard from my family in France and friends in Germany, the people are not so happy about the price flying away everywhere and nobody in Brussels cares about africans not getting the wheat and many vital product from Russia for their survey !!!

a7e5613d-dfbf-4040-a560-42f0677500cd.jpg
I mean i'm gonna gonna bother with the discussion much after this, but NATO wasn't pushing Ukraine to be in NATO. Ukraine was pushing itself to be in NATO. In fact Ukraine wasn't likely to be NATO anytime soon, if ever. Them joining EU, eventually would have been more likely. But it's pretty clear that perhaps Ukraine should have been allowed to join NATO.

And this nonsense about Russia demanding that Ukraine or any other countries can't join NATO is essentially like an abusive husband threatening a victim when they signal they want to leave. It's like victim blaming.

Spot on. I think I am done with this topic as well but there is a reason Poland Latvia Estonia Lithuaina etc wanted to join and Ukraine and Georgia now. Its becaasue of Russian agression and they seems to think they can dictate their neigbours policy and threaten them by force.

I mean even Finland and Sweden are discussing if they should be in Nato now becasue of this war.

PIERRE WOODMAN · Post by **PIERRE WOODMAN** » Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:51 pm

My last post in this thread till my return from holidays or the end of this conflict if as hope it's before !!!

I AM AGAINST THIS WAR AND SUPPORT UKRAIN PEOPLE BUT I CONSIDER THIS INVASION WILL HAVE NEVER EXISTED IF THERE WASN'T SOME PEOPLE ON WEST PART OF THE WORLD TO PUT OIL ON FIRE !!!

I have huge respect for Oliver Stone work. He did a very serious job on Larry Flynt and I have no doubt about the neutrality of his film about Ukrain coming out last year. I learned a lot about Ukrain in it :

https://youtu.be/5-UJ8S63Tsw

PW

PIERRE WOODMAN · Post by **PIERRE WOODMAN** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 7:19 am

I'm really sad Eintracht or Liabatyd decided left the forum for diverses opinions ( porn should not be mixted with politic ) but I respect your feelings !!!

PW

Jean · Post by **Jean** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:16 am

For me, réactions like this from liabatyd and Eintracht, are childish réactions, yes war in Ukrain is a serious topic, and sensitive, but ours community and knowledge in eachother, since years, should have made us strong enough to be able to debate, open mindly, in a topic like this, with all the différent point of views it include. But leaving the forum, because you don't like an opinion, it's like leaving a restaurant table, in real life, with people you was supposed to know well since years, "c'est dommage" as we say in French, but it doesn't change the fact that Pierre is a nice guy, with a big heart inside, passionnate about his work, and with a strong personality, there's no "trying To please everyone, asseptised speech" with Pierre, give him this credit, he's honnest into his speech and principes, reals "friends" accept you the way you are, deep inside, we all share the same passion for sex, we should not forgerting this, even in strong debate and hards time, that's all, peace

PIERRE WOODMAN · Post by **PIERRE WOODMAN** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:38 am

Thanks Jean !!!
yes we are in a sphere nowadays where it's neccessary to be a ass licker to please the people you are dealing with but sorry I don't care that and I express my opinon honestly.
I can be wrong, I can be right, whatever I always consider until people are able to speak as gentlemen all is fine.
Obviously for some people it doesn't work this way and the passion of sex is drowned by political ideas who should'nt be a reason of fight here ...

PW

woodyfan23 · Post by **woodyfan23** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:43 am

Attendons le resultat du conflit. c'est la seule chose qui compte maintenant.

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