PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 08, 2022 9:12 pm

"We will not give up and we will not lose. We will continue fighting for our land, whatever the cost."

Yes I saw it too !!!
But "someone" told me Zelensky is ready to accept some Russian conditions and send away NATO.

Next days will let us now. It's a scary situation as Poland just give to USA his Mig 29 in order to be delivered to Ukrain.
I think they really do their best to make Ukrain in fire ...

PW

I have news for you. Its Russia that has Ukraine under heavy fire. Your sense of reality in this war seems totally lost.
The country Ukraine is obviously under attack and welcomes any help to fight the attackers

OK but when the fight is supposed be 1 against 10 better try do the less of death first ...
It's not few planes who will changes the issue but it will make many dead more for sure and for nothing ...
EU and USA know it but don't care.
NATO don't have the balls to attack Putin so yes they expect Ukrainian to do the job but what will be the price in humans lives ???
As I said they want build a new Liban here ...

PW

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 08, 2022 9:26 pm

OK but when the fight is supposed be 1 against 10 better try do the less of death first ...
It's not few planes who will changes the issue but it will make many dead more for sure and for nothing ...
EU and USA know it but don't care.
NATO don't have the balls to attack Putin so yes they expect Ukrainian to do the job but what will be the price in humans lives ???
As I said they want build a new Liban here ...

PW

First of all Nato attacking Putin has nothing to do with ball but brains. Nuclear powers going head to head is obviously not an option.

Its not worth commenteing on your constant negative views on everything USA and EU does and positive spin on Putins agenda.
I think i you ask the leadership and people of Ukraine right now about who their friends or enemies are its pretty clear .

I wonder if France was attacked again your feeling would be the same.Just accept another country taking over your country and setting up a puppet regime without a fight.

Jerusalem Post is saying there is a peace offer on the table now. Ukraine losing Donbas,no Nato membership in the future and a reduced millitary. Lets see i this is accurate

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In nod to Russia, Ukraine says no longer insisting on NATO membership
Referring to NATO membership, Zelensky said through an interpreter that he does not want to be president of a "country which is begging something on its knees."

President Volodymyr Zelensky said he is no longer pressing for NATO membership for Ukraine, a delicate issue that was one of Russia's stated reasons for invading its pro-Western neighbor.

In another apparent nod aimed at placating Moscow, Zelensky said he is open to "compromise" on the status of two breakaway pro-Russian territories that President Vladimir Putin recognized as independent just before unleashing the invasion on February 24.

"I have cooled down regarding this question a long time ago after we understood that ... NATO is not prepared to accept Ukraine," Zelensky said in an interview aired Monday night on ABC News.

"The alliance is afraid of controversial things, and confrontation with Russia," the president added.

Referring to NATO membership, Zelensky said through an interpreter that he does not want to be president of a "country which is begging something on its knees."

Russia has said it does not want neighboring Ukraine to join NATO, the transatlantic alliance created at the start of the Cold War to protect Europe from the Soviet Union.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-ne ... 80173.html

SO ???

I told you yesterday it will be the next step and Zelensky will give up.

Obviously now Europe start understand all they will loss with this conflict and whatever they can pretend Chinese to help them, only USA is ready to push for war but underground of course as usually, using the Polish planes, and Zelensky ( I hope ) has understood his country will become a ruin with so many dead people that better deal with Putin and refuse NATO inside Ukrain !!!

PW

liabatyd wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:10 pm

only USA is ready to push for war but underground of course as usually, using the Polish planes

I guess a creative twist will follow to feed the basic instinct to piss on “ the West “ - 197 countries and then such a banalization leaves me baffled every time -
But as far as I can read across different media worldwide the US rejected this.

Liabatyd

Yeah It seems USA rejected the idea from Poland as planes are not defensive weapons but Pierre has already made his mind up on this. Everything is USA and EUs fault but Putin who is one actually responsible for hitting innoccent people with heavy artelleri and bombs is the innocent genious chess player thats soon will make USA EU Great Britain collapse. While the stock market is closed for a week in Russia becasue its collapsing.

But as far as I can read across different media worldwide the US rejected this.

Yes right but yesterday it was supposed be as I said !!!

Guys to be honest I am tired about this thread where obviously there will be always a part of the people with an idea and another with the opposite one !!!

I will tell once again and for the last time that I DON'T SUPPORT THE ACTION OF VLADIMIR PUTIN IN UKR AND I AM ON THE SIDE OF THE UKRAINIAN BUT I THINK THIS WAR WILL HAVE NEVER BORN IF THE EU and USA DIDN'T PUSHED THE WAY THEY DID ABOUT USING UKRAIN FOR IMPLANT NATO MORE ON EAST !!!

Now about the final part of the story I will not comment more because obviously we have some super brain here able to know what will be end ...
I am watching the news from far away and will restart to comment here in April when back in Hungary ...

PW

PS : @ElMajor, I hope you like your new watch because maybe Russian stock market collaps but for now as far I heard from my family in France and friends in Germany, the people are not so happy about the price flying away everywhere and nobody in Brussels cares about africans not getting the wheat and many vital product from Russia for their survey !!!

Je sais pas si c'est vrai, mais j'ai entendu qu'aux Pays-bas , les types vont dans les centres de réfugié Ukrainiens, pour chercher de l'ukrainienne sans enfants, avec châssis nikel, pour hébergement longue durée à la maison, ils sont aux taquets !

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:42 pm

But as far as I can read across different media worldwide the US rejected this.

PS : @ElMajor, I hope you like your new watch because maybe Russian stock market collaps but for now as far I heard from my family in France and friends in Germany, the people are not so happy about the price flying away everywhere and nobody in Brussels cares about africans not getting the wheat and many vital product from Russia for their survey !!!


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This war is negative all around for everyone. Its obviously not good for EU or USA either with gas and oil prices etc going through the roof. Nobody thought sanctions would be great for EU.

But when USA EU and Great Britain puts heavy sanctions on Russia its obviously worse for Russia.

And Im glad you now clearly state you support the people of Ukraine who struggles and every country in Europe are now getting Ukraine refugees.

Look . I support you every month becasue you are the maestro of porn . But aslo becasue as far as I know you hanlde your buinsess with a lot of class. ( I only get info on the porn world from the Woodman universe but thats my impression )
You pay the women fairly and you care about their mental and physical well being while some other comapnies treats them awful.

I dont epekt us to agree on everything as I dont agree with family friends or co workers about every subject either.
But when it seemed like cheered on dictator attacking another free country andblamed everyone else I thought that was a bit too much.

I hope you enjoy your time off and its peace when you get back