ever heard of lybia,syria,afghanistan,iraq?

woodyfan23 wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:02 am

ever heard of lybia,syria,afghanistan,iraq?

Irak was a horrible war started by the Bush administration.

When you mention Afghanistan and Syria its unclear if its Russia or USA you are talking about as both of them has been in war there

as usual treaties signed by the West count fuck all.....

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The Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances comprises three identical political agreements signed at the OSCE conference in Budapest, Hungary on 5 December 1994 to provide security assurances by its signatories relating to the accession of Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT). The memorandum was originally signed by three nuclear powers: the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom and the United States. China and France gave somewhat weaker individual assurances in separate documents.[1]

The memorandum included security assurances against threats or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, Belarus, and Kazakhstan. As a result of other agreements and the memorandum, between 1993 and 1996, Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_ ... Assurances

El Major wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 08, 2022 12:19 am

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:11 pm

Whose side are you on Pierre? You speak as if Putin could do more bad things but since he hasn't, everyone should be greatful for it.

As I said always I have been a Putin fan for many years !!!

PW

Not a suprise obviously but still flat out embarrassing and shameful . You can tapdance all you want about the west vs russian interests but its pretty damn clear that its Russia and Putin that is the ones that causes all the human sufering now.

One country attacked without being threatend at all. 146 coutnires condemned this attack in the UN.

To call yourself a fan of a guy that has journalist killed , puts political enemies in jail or even poison them. That does not allow free elections or free press. And now goes to war against Ukraine for reasons not even most of the russian people or their soldiers understands. What are you thinking.

I understand that you are against immigration and LGBT rights and you have common grounds with Putin there and it seems like thats the reason you support several autocrats. Flat out horrible and extreme though to support a guy like Putin for those reasons in my opionion.

You see, this is the reason war exist ...
You read me and decide to keep only a part of my words in order satisfied your personal ideas !!!
It's not constructive only destructive and the main reason why so many people die every day worldwide ...

- I said I WAS a fan of Putin but yes today I am less "afficionados" obviously !!!
- Yes I am against massive immigration because it causes troubles. Europe has million natives people not able to have a lunch every day so why bring more ??? It brought criminality by obligation because when you have no money and need to eat you are ready to kill. It's enough to see the difference the night in the street of Budapest and Paris to understand why no immigration is more peaceful !!!
- I haven't any problem with LGBT, I don't care if people same sex want fuck together and even married together but I am against children rised up by 2 men or 2 women and I 'm against the propaganda of homosexuality on the wall of the city and all place children can see it. I consider it's same as pornography, it must be something you discover once you have a sense of discernment between what you are and what you want but never should push underage people to see it ( as they do now in some USA little school nowadays ).
IT'S MY RIGHT TO THINK THAT WAY, it's not homophobia it's just my personal ideas but today IT'S FORBIDDEN TO HAVE ANY PERSONAL IDEAS !!! I'm sorry I'll not try kill anyone for his ideas but sadly many people wish kill me for mine and this is also one of the main problems of this planet ...

PW

Everyone have right to opinion but most of your comments seem to contradict what you have been saying. You want the war to stop and have sympathy for the Ukrainians but you still empathize with Putin This does not make any sense. The man has killed and caused alot of pain and suffering, and this is the man you admire. I'm seriously baffled by this.

Assterix wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 08, 2022 8:20 am

Everyone have right to opinion but most of your comments seem to contradict what you have been saying. You want the war to stop and have sympathy for the Ukrainians but you still empathize with Putin This does not make any sense. The man has killed and caused alot of pain and suffering, and this is the man you admire. I'm seriously baffled by this.

Spot on. Nobody tries to "kill Pierre" for his opinions but when you post in a thread about the war and every time you post its the west and EU that are to blame and speaking in glowing terms about the agressor Putin some might question what you are thinking

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 08, 2022 5:33 am

- Yes I am against massive immigration because it causes troubles. Europe has million natives people not able to have a lunch every day so why bring more ???
PW

Even this is very confusing. You're a Frenchman living in Budapest. If you feel that way then what about others who think the same of you...

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 08, 2022 5:33 am

El Major wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 08, 2022 12:19 am

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:11 pm

As I said always I have been a Putin fan for many years !!!

PW

Not a suprise obviously but still flat out embarrassing and shameful . You can tapdance all you want about the west vs russian interests but its pretty damn clear that its Russia and Putin that is the ones that causes all the human sufering now.

One country attacked without being threatend at all. 146 coutnires condemned this attack in the UN.

To call yourself a fan of a guy that has journalist killed , puts political enemies in jail or even poison them. That does not allow free elections or free press. And now goes to war against Ukraine for reasons not even most of the russian people or their soldiers understands. What are you thinking.

I understand that you are against immigration and LGBT rights and you have common grounds with Putin there and it seems like thats the reason you support several autocrats. Flat out horrible and extreme though to support a guy like Putin for those reasons in my opionion.

You see, this is the reason war exist ...
You read me and decide to keep only a part of my words in order satisfied your personal ideas !!!
It's not constructive only destructive and the main reason why so many people die every day worldwide ...

- I said I WAS a fan of Putin but yes today I am less "afficionados" obviously !!!
- Yes I am against massive immigration because it causes troubles. Europe has million natives people not able to have a lunch every day so why bring more ??? It brought criminality by obligation because when you have no money and need to eat you are ready to kill. It's enough to see the difference the night in the street of Budapest and Paris to understand why no immigration is more peaceful !!!
- I haven't any problem with LGBT, I don't care if people same sex want fuck together and even married together but I am against children rised up by 2 men or 2 women and I 'm against the propaganda of homosexuality on the wall of the city and all place children can see it. I consider it's same as pornography, it must be something you discover once you have a sense of discernment between what you are and what you want but never should push underage people to see it ( as they do now in some USA little school nowadays ).
IT'S MY RIGHT TO THINK THAT WAY, it's not homophobia it's just my personal ideas but today IT'S FORBIDDEN TO HAVE ANY PERSONAL IDEAS !!! I'm sorry I'll not try kill anyone for his ideas but sadly many people wish kill me for mine and this is also one of the main problems of this planet ...

PW

First of all that people disagree about matters is not what casues war. You are one of very few in this thread that makes appologies for Putin decision to go to war. War is a horrible thing and thats why everyone is against what Putin is doing right now.

I will say autocrats and dictators and people that support these types are more to blame for war. You have been supporting Putin for years as you say. You said in a thread you will move from Hungary if Orban loses the election. The mentality of only one strong man can save us is in my opinion very dangerous as it has showed throughout history. I trust democracy more even though its not perfect I think it has showed its superiour.

I am also against massive immigration becasue its hard to intergrate alot of people fast which casues problems. I just think it seems its the only thing you base your political views on as you even bring it up in this thread about the war.

About LGBT rights I have no idea what propaganda you are talking about. I have only visited France and Hungary a few times but havent seen any.. Its should be a natural thing just as herterosexuality, Its not like there would suddenly be more gay peple than straight . I think its more sad that LGBT peolpe are that more likely to kill themselves etc than the fact that a kid might see to girls or guys kissing in the street. I think we should move on from this as they were being targeted by the nazis and have since had to deal with a lot of issues with violence etc still in 2022 . Kids dont give a shit about who others love in my opinion. The fact you are again referring to some far right lunatics in USA in a few states does only show were you stand poitically. Not that its some proof you are right.

Again you are allowed to think any way you want but people can choose to disagree with you.

You are the master of porn but you traveling a lot and fucking beautiful women in the ass everyday does not make you an expert on foregin relations and policy to the point you cant be questioned.

What PW said about LGBT propaganda in France is true, i live in France, 2 weeks ago, there was big buzz on TV/Internet, because 2 boys teenager did a TikTok story where they acted blowjob gesture, sex gay pose, into a church and in front of a crucifix, trust me, if you see the photos on the internet and see how it's made, you'll feel something weird

For the rest about Putin, i disagree with Pierre, but he can freely express his opinions, like anybody else

Jean wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 08, 2022 11:47 am

What PW said about LGBT propaganda in France is true, i live in France, 2 weeks ago, there was big buzz on TV/Internet, because 2 boys teenager did a TikTok story where they acted blowjob gesture, sex gay pose, into a church and in front of a crucifix, trust me, if you see the photos on the internet and see how it's made, you'll feel something weird

For the rest about Putin, i disagree with Pierre, but he can freely express his opinions, like anybody else

Nobody denies Pierre to express his opinions. The example you mention in France I agree sounds weird.

I just overall think violence based on prejudice against LGBT is alot worse overall. I my town recently a group of boys harassed
a couple on a bus and tried to force them to kiss. When they did not they were beaten badly.