Ah je vois qu’on est arrivé au stade où notre ami Poutinolatre va nous expliquer que la Libye de Kadhafi et l’Irak de Saddam étaient des paradis sur terre où ils faisaient bon vivre dans l’insouciance avant l’arrivée des méchants occidentaux et que le pauvre Milosevic est une victime.

malheureusement il n'a pas tort !!!
Certe les dictateurs du passé étaient des ordures mais il ne tueaient que quelques centaines de personnes opposée à leur régime chaque année. En contre partie la vie n'était pas si mauvaise et toutes les religions cohabitaient en paix !!!

Aujourd'hui c'est le chaos partout et les USA peuvent se vanter d'avoir plus d'un million de mort sur les bras ...
Tout ca pour piquer du pétrole et du gaz ...

Aujourd'hui l'union europeénne va débloquer du fric pour l'Ukraine mais qui a bien regardé le "deal" ???
C'est le même que pour la Grèce il y a 5 ans.
On gros toute l'économie Ukrainienne passe entre les main de l'Europe si ils se sortent des pattes de Poutine.

et qui reste peinard assis dans son fauteuil a regarder le spectacle ??? Les USA et qui va se gaver en vendant à l'europe ce que Poutine ne vendra plus mais en deux fois plus cher ??? les USA ...

Tout est pourri de partout et malheureusement ce sont les pauvres ukrainiens qui vont en prendre plein la gueule !!!
Mais aussi en europe des tonnes de gens viennent de perdre leur boulot pour des restrictions dont Poutine se branle à pied joint ( genre que le mec n'avait pas anticipé ce qui allait se passer ) mais là encore personne n'en parle.
Je suis amie avec la patronne d'une agence Sberbank Hongrie et elle ainsi que tous les employée hongrois n'ont plus de boulot depuis vendredi dernier. Boum clac en une seconde pour un conflit auquel ils n'ont rien à voir !!!
Et ça aussi les grands de ce monde s'en battent les couilles ...
Les chinois vont donner au Russes tout le pognon qu'ils veulent et au final c'est l'europe qui aura l'anus éclaté comme toujours.

PW

Eintracht wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 02, 2022 5:35 am

alexus2 wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:00 pm

After reading the thread he never attack anyone first. He express his frustration for people who are not reading his post and got called names for it so he in return responded by calling the other poster stupid.

Not surprising that you think that was since the first thing you said when appearing here was to say “I am here for support the Russians”.
This interpretation of his behavior here is quite quite exclusive.
After appearing, blaming everything on the west, denying flatly that the Russians do anything wrong and claiming all the attacks on civil targets were done by the Ukrainians themselves he was quickly falsified and then attacked members and you don’t see that?
Sure, with your bias, no wonder.

mspm89 wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 02, 2022 12:21 am

All I'll say on this matter is that good ol' Ein-stain has some nerve calling anyone stupid, what with his hysterical characterization of Trump as an 'antidemocratic sociopath'. Well, sociopath is a character judgement, he might or might not be one, but the whole term... not even CNN's talking heads believe that crap. If anything, Trump's too liberal for his own good, and for what used to be his constituency.

Aaah mspm (= appreciation for marginal small penis masturbation) the guy who trivialized the holocaust. No wonder you think Trump is too liberal (!!) since you characterize “Mein Kampf” as “nice but too mellow”.
Having somebody like you on your side is a clear sign to be on the wrong side.

Actually this is my second account here. I have an account with the same username except the 2. My account messed up when mr pierre upgraded this forum. Been a member here for a long time but not very active. I have interacted a few times with pierre.

Anyways, I am not anti american, or anti ukranian. I don't dislike putin nor do I like him. I just know he is communist and thats not the lifestyle I want. I don't dream about living in his country. I feel the same way about the chinese communist but I have a slight dislike of them.

I know how things work in democracy. I know how the 2 party system work. I know a lot of talk going on in a democracy. Which in the end its BS or whatever benefit their agenda.

I also read why Putin is doing this and thats to the extent of my understanding of the situation. Thats why I am for putin on this. I feel in order to avoid more bloodshed the ukranians should just keep the way things are instead of provoking the russian in wanting to be part of the west. They can accomplish the same thing the west has by remaining status quo. We also do a great job in grooming the communist party anyway without them joining our system .

I started reading this thread because of diversity. I know pierre has a lot of followers in Europe and eastern europeans. It is good to see how and what they think- what they believe in as long as they don't force their belief on me. Will it change me to follow what they believe in?. No, I am set on my ways and enjoy my freedom. I don't want to get all my source just from the news. Its also good to see what regular people thinkg of the situation. With all this said their argument and belief is valid.

Ah ben ça va alors si les dictateurs ne tuaient « que » quelques centaines d’opposants chaque année, ça passait crème. Sans vouloir excuser les conséquences terribles des guerres en Irak et en Lybie, c’est quand même d’un cynisme assez terrible ce genre de phrases, et surtout ça revient à invisibiliser l’oppression qui pesait sur la population en permanence, puisqu’on sait pertinemment que dans ces régimes là, il fallait pas grand chose pour se faire qualifier arbitrairement d’opposant et la répression quotidienne touchait de toute façon tout le monde sans faire de détails.

Si Kadhafi a fini comme il a fini, c’est sans doute pas parce que seule une petite minorité d’opposants ne supportait pas de vivre sous son régime, m’est avis.

suneko wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 02, 2022 12:59 pm

Ah je vois qu’on est arrivé au stade où notre ami Poutinolatre va nous expliquer que la Libye de Kadhafi et l’Irak de Saddam étaient des paradis sur terre où ils faisaient bon vivre dans l’insouciance avant l’arrivée des méchants occidentaux et que le pauvre Milosevic est une victime.

Who the fuck are you (the U.S. and NATO)?
What the fuck makes you think you have the right to interfere in the affairs of a sovereign state?
Why the fuck do you think you know what a sovereign nation needs?
Why the fuck do you dictate your morals to sovereign nations?
Why the fuck do you destroy the legitimate rulers of sovereign nations?
Why the fuck are you completely destroying the economies of sovereign nations?
Why the fuck are you destroying millions of people; women, children of these nations?
Why the fuck do you impose your way of life on sovereign states, especially those with traditional Muslim societies, where democracy has never been a tradition in state governance?
Why the fuck do you decide who is right? Who is to blame?
Why do you think anyone has given you these rights? Aside from your arrogance, greed, and irrepressible ambition, you have no morals. You don't give a fuck about the lack of UN sanction for your lawlessness. Who gave you the sanction to destroy sovereign states?
Just because you have a big army and a wallet?
Aren't you taking too much on yourself?
In fact, your agony is near. Your shameful escape from the natives in sandals in Afghanistan is the beginning of your agony. Sooner or later you will have to answer for your outrage.

P.S. Carla Del Ponte is a former Attorney General of Switzerland and former prosecutor of the UN International Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia in her book "The Hunt. Me and the War Criminals" (2008), talks about cases of Kosovo Albanians cutting out and selling organs from living Serbian prisoners, trafficking drugs and women. That the hysteria about genocide against Kosovo Albanians by Serbs is an absolute lie fabricated by the CIA and representatives of NATO countries. And it is impossible to bring Milosevic back. He died in prison. That's it. Lies and hypocrisy is your motto!

Lololol imagine typing all that righteous horseshit while the guy you stan for is literally in the process of trying to destroy a sovereign nation and kill its legitimately elected ruler.

suneko wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 02, 2022 7:00 pm

Lololol imagine typing all that righteous horseshit while the guy you stan for is literally in the process of trying to destroy a sovereign nation and kill its legitimately elected ruler.

I wrote about the historical background, reasons, prerequisites, and motivation of Russia in making the decision to conduct a special operation in Ukraine in my very first post in this thread. I will not repeat it. My opinion is unchanged.
And most importantly! Everyone will answer for his own sins. But, it is not for you to lecture us!

Republic World - India

https://youtu.be/BOkn3l7mddc

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 02, 2022 6:18 pm

Ah je vois qu’on est arrivé au stade où notre ami Poutinolatre va nous expliquer que la Libye de Kadhafi et l’Irak de Saddam étaient des paradis sur terre où ils faisaient bon vivre dans l’insouciance avant l’arrivée des méchants occidentaux et que le pauvre Milosevic est une victime.

malheureusement il n'a pas tort !!!
Certe les dictateurs du passé étaient des ordures mais il ne tueaient que quelques centaines de personnes opposée à leur régime chaque année. En contre partie la vie n'était pas si mauvaise et toutes les religions cohabitaient en paix !!!

Aujourd'hui c'est le chaos partout et les USA peuvent se vanter d'avoir plus d'un million de mort sur les bras ...
Tout ca pour piquer du pétrole et du gaz ...

Aujourd'hui l'union europeénne va débloquer du fric pour l'Ukraine mais qui a bien regardé le "deal" ???
C'est le même que pour la Grèce il y a 5 ans.
On gros toute l'économie Ukrainienne passe entre les main de l'Europe si ils se sortent des pattes de Poutine.

et qui reste peinard assis dans son fauteuil a regarder le spectacle ??? Les USA et qui va se gaver en vendant à l'europe ce que Poutine ne vendra plus mais en deux fois plus cher ??? les USA ...

Tout est pourri de partout et malheureusement ce sont les pauvres ukrainiens qui vont en prendre plein la gueule !!!
Mais aussi en europe des tonnes de gens viennent de perdre leur boulot pour des restrictions dont Poutine se branle à pied joint ( genre que le mec n'avait pas anticipé ce qui allait se passer ) mais là encore personne n'en parle.
Je suis amie avec la patronne d'une agence Sberbank Hongrie et elle ainsi que tous les employée hongrois n'ont plus de boulot depuis vendredi dernier. Boum clac en une seconde pour un conflit auquel ils n'ont rien à voir !!!
Et ça aussi les grands de ce monde s'en battent les couilles ...
Les chinois vont donner au Russes tout le pognon qu'ils veulent et au final c'est l'europe qui aura l'anus éclaté comme toujours.

PW

I wish you had the same concern for the Ukrainian pepole right now as they are being bombed and having to flee . Still its USA and the west you are harping on about. Putin started this and it and for no reason. Where is the big support for this even in Russia?

MVitaly5 wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 02, 2022 7:38 pm

Republic World - India

https://youtu.be/BOkn3l7mddc

good stuff thanks

El Major wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:07 pm

I wish you had the same concern for the Ukrainian pepole right now as they are being bombed and having to flee . Still its USA and the west you are harping on about. Putin started this and it and for no reason. Where is the big support for this even in Russia?

And in Russia there is absolute support - for Putin.
Because people understand that they are liberating Russian people and native Russian lands from the Nazis and NATO. Especially since the leaders of Russia have already stated that no one is going to deprive Ukraine of statehood and sovereignty. There is no intention to annex Ukraine to Russia.
People are fleeing to Europe mainly from Western Ukraine. Because the Nazis don't let people out of the cities to the east. It is understandable that ordinary people are afraid, especially since they are constantly put into a state of stress by the Ukranazi and Western European media with their fake materials about alleged "atrocities" by Russian soldiers. In Western Ukraine there is no Russian army at all now and nobody bombs them! I assure you that after the extermination of the Nazis, all those people who want to return to their homes will be free to do so. The Russian army does not fight the common and peaceful population, they are not Nazis who hide behind their own women and children.

MVitaly5 wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:22 pm

El Major wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:07 pm

I wish you had the same concern for the Ukrainian pepole right now as they are being bombed and having to flee . Still its USA and the west you are harping on about. Putin started this and it and for no reason. Where is the big support for this even in Russia?

And in Russia there is absolute support - for Putin.
Because people understand that they are liberating Russian people and native Russian lands from the Nazis and NATO. Especially since the leaders of Russia have already stated that no one is going to deprive Ukraine of statehood and sovereignty. There is no intention to annex Ukraine to Russia.
People are fleeing to Europe mainly from Western Ukraine. Because the Nazis don't let people out of the cities to the east. It is understandable that ordinary people are afraid, especially since they are constantly put into a state of stress by the Ukranazi and Western European media with their fake materials about alleged "atrocities" by Russian soldiers. In Western Ukraine there is no Russian army at all now and nobody bombs them! I assure you that after the extermination of the Nazis, all those people who want to return to their homes will be free to do so. The Russian army does not fight the common and peaceful population, they are not Nazis who hide behind their own women and children.

Propaganda is a hell of a drug. Impressive if you beleive even half of that.