Yup because if Russia falls china will follow suit. China almost failed when they had the uprising. So China has a lot to lose if they don't support Russia. I don't think China old guard will be willing to give their position easily.woodyfan23 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 2:14 pmWithout China right behind its back, Russia would not have done all this for sure.
Russia is China's partner against usa's strategy to contain its rise which is on course to topple usa in economic military and technological fronts.
Swift or not, as long as China is supportive Russia will not be strangled economically and financially by the west.
This is about geopolitics and much more.
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Ага, рассказывайте сказки. То то столько людей радостно встречает Российскую Армию с освобожденной территории, а Украинские военные толпами сдаются в плен. Было бы больше людей, но к сожелении трусливые фашисты, удеживают их в заложниках и прячутся в города. Там с украинской стороны воюют в основном только фашисты, потому что они знаю, что им пощады не будет.Snabba wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 1:48 pmExcept Russian speaking ukrainian don't want Russia to intervene because they are not threatened in Ukraine. Except by Russian shelling. People in Kharkiv, Odessa (main russian speaking city of Ukraine), they want Russia out of their land. Even in Donbass, most of the people out there doesn't to be part of Russia, only some old persons with the nostalgia of the USRR.
For Ukrainian being under the influence of Russia means to have a corrupt government, little freedom, and an authoritarian regime, whereas on the on the other hand to join European union would mean economic development, freedom, little corruption just like their western neighbord such as Poland.
Что же, предатели были всегда в любой нации. Валите в "свободную Европу". Только землю русскую оставте русским!
П.С. И Польшу пнул заодно. Молодец! Так держать!
Yes, tell stories. Then so many people joyfully meet the Russian Army from the liberated territory, and the Ukrainian military surrender in droves. There would be more people, but unfortunately the cowardly fascists keep them hostage and hide in the cities. Mostly only fascists are fighting there from the Ukrainian side, because they know that they will not be spared.
Well, traitors have always been in any nation. Get down to "free Europe". Only leave the Russian land to the Russians!
P.S. And Poland kicked at the same time. Well done! Keep it up!
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Что ему мешало в 90-х годах захватить Дальний Восток? В России был кризис, кто им мешал? Великая Китайская Стена? Эта глупая байка даже в России ходит в небольших маргинальных кругах и среди паникеров. Не нужно Китаю ссориться с Россией, особенно в настоящее время. Китай - экономика № 1 в мире, Россия ведущая военная держава. Их интересы взаимовыгодны. Объединенный Запад своими глупыми действиями, сам создал такую обстановку. У Китая конечно свои коммерческие интересы, откровенно ссориться с Западом они врядли будут, но они понимают, что после России, они следующие.
What prevented him from seizing the Far East in the 90s? There was a crisis in Russia, who prevented them? The great Wall of China? This stupid story even in Russia goes around in small marginal circles and among alarmists. There is no need for China to quarrel with Russia, especially at the present time. China is the No. 1 economy in the world, Russia is the leading military power. Their interests are mutually beneficial. The united West, with its stupid actions, itself created such an environment. Of course, China has its own commercial interests, they are unlikely to openly quarrel with the West, but they understand that after Russia, they are next.
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Russian people will suffer because of Putin's madness, I feel sorry for them.
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You are aboviously delusional due to Putin's propaganda. Is Vassili Lomachenko, Olekksander Usyk fascists? they are the most famous ukrainian in the world, russian speaking Ukrainian, with russian's friends, and yet they took up to defend Kiev.MVitaly5 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 2:25 pmАга, рассказывайте сказки. То то столько людей радостно встречает Российскую Армию с освобожденной территории, а Украинские военные толпами сдаются в плен. Было бы больше людей, но к сожелении трусливые фашисты, удеживают их в заложниках и прячутся в города. Там с украинской стороны воюют в основном только фашисты, потому что они знаю, что им пощады не будет.Snabba wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 1:48 pmExcept Russian speaking ukrainian don't want Russia to intervene because they are not threatened in Ukraine. Except by Russian shelling. People in Kharkiv, Odessa (main russian speaking city of Ukraine), they want Russia out of their land. Even in Donbass, most of the people out there doesn't to be part of Russia, only some old persons with the nostalgia of the USRR.
For Ukrainian being under the influence of Russia means to have a corrupt government, little freedom, and an authoritarian regime, whereas on the on the other hand to join European union would mean economic development, freedom, little corruption just like their western neighbord such as Poland.
Что же, предатели были всегда в любой нации. Валите в "свободную Европу". Только землю русскую оставте русским!
П.С. И Польшу пнул заодно. Молодец! Так держать!
Yes, tell stories. Then so many people joyfully meet the Russian Army from the liberated territory, and the Ukrainian military surrender in droves. There would be more people, but unfortunately the cowardly fascists keep them hostage and hide in the cities. Mostly only fascists are fighting there from the Ukrainian side, because they know that they will not be spared.
Well, traitors have always been in any nation. Get down to "free Europe". Only leave the Russian land to the Russians!
P.S. And Poland kicked at the same time. Well done! Keep it up!
Is the jewish ukrainian president a neo nazi?
If it was only the few thousands militants from right sector/azov battalion who fought against Russia then Kiev would already be under Putin regime, the same for Kharkiv, and Russian army wouldn't have to terrorise Ukrainian civilians by bombing the city centre of Kharkiv. The same for a so called surrending in droves whereas we know Russia wasn't expecting such a fierce resistance from the brave ukrainian people
Why did the Ukrainians vote at every election for pro European party, candidates? Russia did too much harm to Ukraine in the past and present, it is over they want none to do with Russia. The model of a corrupt and authoritarian regime act as foil for Ukrainian
Russia is big enough, leave Ukraine to Ukrainian, they want you of here, Putin's russia is too corrupt to even develop its own land. 20% of Russian still shit in hole.
my grandparents were born in Odessa before coming to France, the mother of my child is from Kharkiv, i know the situation very well.
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Well now Ukrainians are dying, so the result is a draw.
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It was a field of war in Donbass due to a Russian staging a secession, funding and arming and sending service man to use the Donbass as a Trojan to prevent Ukraine from being a sovereign state.
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Вы уверены в том они с оружием в руках стали защищать Киев? То что они выступили против войны. Открою вам секрет, я тоже против войны.
Are you sure that they began to defend Kyiv with weapons in their hands? That they opposed the war. I'll tell you a secret, I am also against the war.
Вот эти марши нацистов-бандоровцев, проходят постоянно в Киеве, под окнами Зеленского. Бандеровцы, которые убивали евреев, сжигали их деревни, разбивали головы младенцев об стену, насиловали женщин.
Он - Еврей? Он гнида, ничтожество, которое наплевал на память своих предков. От него уже отреклись все евреи России.
These marches of the Nazi-Bandorites are constantly taking place in Kyiv, under the windows of Zelensky. Bandera, who killed Jews, burned their villages, smashed the heads of babies against the wall, and raped women.
Is he Jewish? He is a nit, a nonentity who spit on the memory of his ancestors. All the Jews of Russia have already renounced him.
Там и воюют только фашисты и кучка зомбированных. Они уже давно были бы уничтожены если бы не прятались в городах и не держали людей в заложниках. Россия к сожаленью, не может использовать авиацию и тяжелое оружие в городах, потому что жалее людей. Это только США и НАТО, сначала полностью испепелят авиацией города и землю суверенного государства, а потом уже заходят их солдаты, переступая через трупы женщин и детей.Snabba wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 2:50 pmIf it was only the few thousands militants from right sector/azov battalion who fought against Russia then Kiev would already be under Putin regime, the same for Kharkiv, and Russian army wouldn't have to terrorise Ukrainian civilians by bombing the city centre of Kharkiv. The same for a so called surrending in droves whereas we know Russia wasn't expecting such a fierce resistance from the brave ukrainian people
Only fascists and a bunch of zombies are fighting there. They would have been destroyed long ago if they had not been hiding in cities and holding people hostage. Russia, unfortunately, cannot use aviation and heavy weapons in cities, because it is more pitiful for people. It is only the USA and NATO, at first they completely incinerate the cities and the land of a sovereign state with aviation, and then their soldiers come in, stepping over the corpses of women and children.
Видно, за кого они голосовали. Украина, выходя из состава СССР, была 4 экономика в Европе. Сейчас это самая нищая страна Европы. И это не моя оценка, а вас европейцев. Дерзайте дальше.Snabba wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 2:50 pmWhy did the Ukrainians vote at every election for pro European party, candidates? Russia did too much harm to Ukraine in the past and present, it is over they want none to do with Russia. The model of a corrupt and authoritarian regime act as foil for Ukrainian
You can see who they voted for. Ukraine, leaving the USSR, was the 4th economy in Europe. Now it is the poorest country in Europe. And this is not my assessment, but you Europeans. Keep going.
Байден: "Мы пока не можем рассматривать принятие Украины в НАТО, на настоящий момент это одна из самых корумпированных стран в мире".
Так что перестаньте меня смешить...
Biden: "We can not yet consider the admission of Ukraine to NATO, at the moment it is one of the most corrupt countries in the world."
So stop making me laugh...
Ни черта ты не знаешь, по этому и живешь во Франции, а не на своей Родине. Пользуешься местными фейками и не включаешь работу мозга, чтобы составить объективную картину.
You don’t know a damn thing, that’s why you live in France, and not in your homeland. You use local fakes and do not turn on the work of the brain in order to form an objective picture.
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Ukrainians are Nazis with president who is a Jew and who wins 73.22% of the vote. Right. 