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It has nothing to with this voting here… forgive me please! I’ve can’t accept any attacks on Valmont!!! He is a friend and great contributor on this forum!!! Let him alone please !!
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Hey Doudou, one more time you call me Einhart and I will make your life a misery by calling you Jeannie from then on!!
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Most of the time I try to be ironic and sarcastic in this forum, but my disgust overflowed, so I describe my feelings in some much harder words...
"4 four guys voted for Nikki Waine so now its useless to vote for Nikki, maybe they could change their vote for another girl...." - these words are manipulating in favor of Rubi Rizzo in this voting. In the same way he explained why it such a need to vote for Rubi Rizzo. Sometimes he tries to become some Pierre's voice for other forum users. This can be seen in the posts about when a given scene will be published, when he talks "in the name of Pierre". It is a pure manipulation!
Those who have eyes also saw how he manipulated the threads of the girls he liked, everyone could see it for example in the thread of Alexis Brill... but Jean wrotes...
First of all, it was unfair, because it is known that as user you look mainly at the recently published scenes or follow the recommendations from the forum and look at the top part of its first page...
But there was an even worse thing that Valmont was screwing up... In one of the recent voting he simply asking users to change votes, because of something, because of possible publishing bla bla bla etc. and in the course of the vote, many of his admirers actually changed votes. In the threads of giels he tried to be Pierre's voice and speak for him... another disgusting thing.
Of course I agree with @JohnWick. @Valmont doesn't influence, he simply manipulate and he often manipulates with some technic of persuasion like you notice John. John. you have a right that the words of Valmont which I quoted mpw:JohnWick wrote: ↑Thu Jan 27, 2022 10:17 am@valmont it's funny that when someone said that voting Rubi Rizzo was useless because of the presale you were quick to say it wasn't, maybe because your agenda is to see Rubi Rizzo win but now you try to influence votes towards Rubi Rizzo by suggesting that people who voted for Nikki Waine must now change their votes. Just let people do what they want and not to interfere please. Pierre promised many castings. There's no guarantee that Nikki Waine will come either so if people want to vote for a specific girl they like, then let them vote and not tell them what to do please.
"4 four guys voted for Nikki Waine so now its useless to vote for Nikki, maybe they could change their vote for another girl...." - these words are manipulating in favor of Rubi Rizzo in this voting. In the same way he explained why it such a need to vote for Rubi Rizzo. Sometimes he tries to become some Pierre's voice for other forum users. This can be seen in the posts about when a given scene will be published, when he talks "in the name of Pierre". It is a pure manipulation!
Those who have eyes also saw how he manipulated the threads of the girls he liked, everyone could see it for example in the thread of Alexis Brill... but Jean wrotes...
To be honest, I don't give a shit on the promotion he was making. Alexis was a nice girl, but I was totally disgusted by posting 5 pictures every day on her forum for almost a year and thus bump up her thread. I agree with Einchart that without this manipulating she will not to be no. 1 in 2021. How many posts in her thread were published in January this year? Guys, please think! And it is not a good things that it was making a sale! I'm spitting for sale made with manipulation.Jean wrote: ↑Thu Jan 27, 2022 2:49 pmRespect also all what Valmont did on this forum, he's not the kind of guys that deserve to be balls breaked, he boosted the sales of many girls, he did made WCX win money, even Einhart gived him credit on the fact that Alexis wouldn't be a top sales number 1 without him, in every company, if your smart, you give respect and congrate those who did goods jobs, and you listen to them, my 2 cents
First of all, it was unfair, because it is known that as user you look mainly at the recently published scenes or follow the recommendations from the forum and look at the top part of its first page...
But there was an even worse thing that Valmont was screwing up... In one of the recent voting he simply asking users to change votes, because of something, because of possible publishing bla bla bla etc. and in the course of the vote, many of his admirers actually changed votes. In the threads of giels he tried to be Pierre's voice and speak for him... another disgusting thing.
This is promotion @charliema talked about. I agree with him that Valmont disgusted this voting with his manipulations. The voting part should be a holiday for us (fans), something very nice, but is not.
@Durex88 you're like a limited groupie of Valmont. Contributor of what? Photos in the threads...
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No no, it's not only photos, he also always pushed people to support WCX by taking memberships, ectMartin_Ki13 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 27, 2022 9:34 pm@Durex88 you're like a limited groupie of Valmont. Contributor of what? Photos in the threads...
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Thank you @Martin_Ki13 atleast someone else here also has a brain here like me and can see what I am seeing.
It's exactly what I said. There's no need to push people in a certain direction by manipulating and Jean telling that Valmont pushes members for memberships and sales is a pure manipulation. What he did with Alexis Brill thread is a proper manipulation also. 10 photos every single day posting and bumping her thread to top of sales through manipulation. even when Pierre asked him to stop with his excessive posts he never listened amd continued. So Valmont continues to do what he wants even when people tell him stop he don't listen like a kindergarten child. People should be free to do what they want on their own without telling them" hey vote for this girl and change your vote because I think this girl is precious and that's why you have to do it" that is manipuation. If you look what @Isaac did he posted many girls but he gave people options and wasn't biased the way Valmont. I don't have a problem with people having their favorites but it's not right to manipulate others. Persuade with good intention yes no problem, but manipulate I don't like.
It's exactly what I said. There's no need to push people in a certain direction by manipulating and Jean telling that Valmont pushes members for memberships and sales is a pure manipulation. What he did with Alexis Brill thread is a proper manipulation also. 10 photos every single day posting and bumping her thread to top of sales through manipulation. even when Pierre asked him to stop with his excessive posts he never listened amd continued. So Valmont continues to do what he wants even when people tell him stop he don't listen like a kindergarten child. People should be free to do what they want on their own without telling them" hey vote for this girl and change your vote because I think this girl is precious and that's why you have to do it" that is manipuation. If you look what @Isaac did he posted many girls but he gave people options and wasn't biased the way Valmont. I don't have a problem with people having their favorites but it's not right to manipulate others. Persuade with good intention yes no problem, but manipulate I don't like.
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Not at all, you can read, on this site, every 2 months, Pierre Woodman telling: "i need the full support of my members, or one day I will close the site", 6 years i'm an active user here, 6 years i read this, every 2 months, so i can understand the motivation of Valmont, he only wanted to help
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Well, when you do something, you are very often between love and hate. Some people love you and some others hate you.
Always the same story. Pierre knows that very well, since he is a public personnality.
But me, now, even if I am not a public personnality, I experienced that yesterday.
But I could explain something to @Martin_Ki13 and @JohnWick who seem full of hate against me.
I dont hate them, I will explain something very quietly.
And many thanks to Jean and Durex88 for their support and friendship.
@Martin_Ki13 : do you know Carl with his Caylian Curtis?
Well, man, Carl posted every day, sometimes twice or three times a day pictures or comments on 280 pages, yes, 280 pages, EVERY DAY for 10 YEARS!
Nobody tells him he never did manipulation by bumping up her thread.
Now, by number of fans, Caylian Curtis is absolute NUMBER TWO OF ALL TIME on Woodman Site : 739 635 fans today! Only behind Viola's Bailey (2 003 004 fans) who is the great NUMBER ONE of Woodman site!
Carl did it for 10 years. It was maybe the work of his life.
I dont have Carl's patience. I will never be able to do this.
You mix two matters of discussion, so there is a bit confusion in your mind and your argumentation.
1) First, when Carl posted pictures of his dear Caylian, was it manipulation? He did it, he obtained a result but was it manipulation?
When people posted regularly comments or pictures on threads' girls, is it manipulation?
Well, you could see everyday, some people posted everyday something and bumping up threads for some girls. Is it manipulation?
For Jia Lissa, Razorblade1993 posted comments almost everyday to get her thread up. This just for only an interview on Woodman site, not even a sex scene. And Jia reached 190 000 fans, almost for nothing. Is it manipulation or love?
In 2021, some girls had their moment. Eden Ivy, Olivia Sparkle, Sylvia Buntarska got their thread bumped up every day.
Was it manipulation or love for these girls?
Come on Martin_Ki13! Every guy on this site did it to promote his favourite girls.
Sometimes, it could seem a bit exhausting to have everyday or every night Eden, Olivia or Sylvia on top of forum....but its the rule of the game....and these girls will be replaced by others.
When you said "I'm spitting for sale made with manipulation", it a bit ridiculous because ALL the girls made sales by getting promoted on the forum.
About Alexis, she is popular, I wasnt the only one to post on her thread, occidental, Jean, tango75jlb, therover, beinhart, peradua and so on, did it also....I dont think I helped her to become the number one last year. She would have became number one, even without me.
She deserved it. If the casting was released in 2013, she would have had even more success...
Thats simple. In 2021, her only real competitor, number 2, is Arietta Young.
Who is the most representative of Woodman Castings? Alexis Brill or Arietta Young? Alexis surely, so she would have won, even without me...
Even now, in 2022, when I did not post anything on her thread, Alexis did more sales and is more well-ranked than Arietta. So, yes, Alexis is the real number ONE of 2021.
Now, in 2022, it is not her moment anymore, thats why there are not a lot of comments on her thread but I could change the situation, if you want, haha...
2) Giving advice, is it manipulation?
When I realize that a girl's casting update will be released, and I said "maybe, its good for members to vote for another girl, not to waste their votes", is it manipulation or just good advice and friendship?
By doing this, I never asked people to vote for my favourites. They could vote for any other girls, It seems obvious.
I respect people's freedom, I hope everybody could respect mine.
So Martin_Ki13, what you said about manipulation is complete bullshit and lies.
Pierre is not me. I am not Pierre. I am not Pierre's voice. I disagree with him on some subjects like politics for example. But I respect him a lot for his fabulous work. I search the best in every domain and I really think like a lot of other members that Pierre's site is the BEST for porn.
So sorry, Martin_Ki13, I never tried to be Pierre's voice, I just quoted his words.
3) First, I created the thread Precious Treasures of Woodman Castings on this forum. I think it was a great thread, I should give it birth again.
And I discovered that, on january 2021, you, yes you, Martin_Ki13, congratulated me for this thread, saying it is "a very stimulating thread".
So, at this moment, you wasnt so full of hate against me. I hope you could come back to best feelings towards me.
And in january 2021, you didnt say that I was a idiot contributor, not even able to write : "Contributor of what? Photos in the threads..." with a lot of despise...
4) I think that @JohnWick beat himself his own record of stupidity once again....
"Jean telling that Valmont pushes members for memberships and sales is a pure manipulation."
If I propose (not pushes) people to subscribe to Woodman site and to buy girls scenes, it helps more Woodman site BY GAINING MONEY than YOU ever did by telling bullshit.
Well, I dont want to get this thread changed into a discussion in favour of me or against me.
I am not a matter of discussion so important for that.
Sorry friend Kmconstantine for this long post but I had to answer to these mean attacks.
So I hope its over.
So now lets vote for the girls!
Always the same story. Pierre knows that very well, since he is a public personnality.
But me, now, even if I am not a public personnality, I experienced that yesterday.
But I could explain something to @Martin_Ki13 and @JohnWick who seem full of hate against me.
I dont hate them, I will explain something very quietly.
And many thanks to Jean and Durex88 for their support and friendship.
@Martin_Ki13 : do you know Carl with his Caylian Curtis?
Well, man, Carl posted every day, sometimes twice or three times a day pictures or comments on 280 pages, yes, 280 pages, EVERY DAY for 10 YEARS!
Nobody tells him he never did manipulation by bumping up her thread.
Now, by number of fans, Caylian Curtis is absolute NUMBER TWO OF ALL TIME on Woodman Site : 739 635 fans today! Only behind Viola's Bailey (2 003 004 fans) who is the great NUMBER ONE of Woodman site!
Carl did it for 10 years. It was maybe the work of his life.
I dont have Carl's patience. I will never be able to do this.
You mix two matters of discussion, so there is a bit confusion in your mind and your argumentation.
1) First, when Carl posted pictures of his dear Caylian, was it manipulation? He did it, he obtained a result but was it manipulation?
When people posted regularly comments or pictures on threads' girls, is it manipulation?
Well, you could see everyday, some people posted everyday something and bumping up threads for some girls. Is it manipulation?
For Jia Lissa, Razorblade1993 posted comments almost everyday to get her thread up. This just for only an interview on Woodman site, not even a sex scene. And Jia reached 190 000 fans, almost for nothing. Is it manipulation or love?
In 2021, some girls had their moment. Eden Ivy, Olivia Sparkle, Sylvia Buntarska got their thread bumped up every day.
Was it manipulation or love for these girls?
Come on Martin_Ki13! Every guy on this site did it to promote his favourite girls.
Sometimes, it could seem a bit exhausting to have everyday or every night Eden, Olivia or Sylvia on top of forum....but its the rule of the game....and these girls will be replaced by others.
When you said "I'm spitting for sale made with manipulation", it a bit ridiculous because ALL the girls made sales by getting promoted on the forum.
About Alexis, she is popular, I wasnt the only one to post on her thread, occidental, Jean, tango75jlb, therover, beinhart, peradua and so on, did it also....I dont think I helped her to become the number one last year. She would have became number one, even without me.
She deserved it. If the casting was released in 2013, she would have had even more success...
Thats simple. In 2021, her only real competitor, number 2, is Arietta Young.
Who is the most representative of Woodman Castings? Alexis Brill or Arietta Young? Alexis surely, so she would have won, even without me...
Even now, in 2022, when I did not post anything on her thread, Alexis did more sales and is more well-ranked than Arietta. So, yes, Alexis is the real number ONE of 2021.
Now, in 2022, it is not her moment anymore, thats why there are not a lot of comments on her thread but I could change the situation, if you want, haha...
2) Giving advice, is it manipulation?
When I realize that a girl's casting update will be released, and I said "maybe, its good for members to vote for another girl, not to waste their votes", is it manipulation or just good advice and friendship?
By doing this, I never asked people to vote for my favourites. They could vote for any other girls, It seems obvious.
I respect people's freedom, I hope everybody could respect mine.
So Martin_Ki13, what you said about manipulation is complete bullshit and lies.
Pierre is not me. I am not Pierre. I am not Pierre's voice. I disagree with him on some subjects like politics for example. But I respect him a lot for his fabulous work. I search the best in every domain and I really think like a lot of other members that Pierre's site is the BEST for porn.
So sorry, Martin_Ki13, I never tried to be Pierre's voice, I just quoted his words.
3) First, I created the thread Precious Treasures of Woodman Castings on this forum. I think it was a great thread, I should give it birth again.
And I discovered that, on january 2021, you, yes you, Martin_Ki13, congratulated me for this thread, saying it is "a very stimulating thread".
So, at this moment, you wasnt so full of hate against me. I hope you could come back to best feelings towards me.
And in january 2021, you didnt say that I was a idiot contributor, not even able to write : "Contributor of what? Photos in the threads..." with a lot of despise...
4) I think that @JohnWick beat himself his own record of stupidity once again....
"Jean telling that Valmont pushes members for memberships and sales is a pure manipulation."
If I propose (not pushes) people to subscribe to Woodman site and to buy girls scenes, it helps more Woodman site BY GAINING MONEY than YOU ever did by telling bullshit.
Well, I dont want to get this thread changed into a discussion in favour of me or against me.
I am not a matter of discussion so important for that.
Sorry friend Kmconstantine for this long post but I had to answer to these mean attacks.
So I hope its over.
So now lets vote for the girls!