je crois surtout qu'elle veut une fessée la petite..

But army is a place for very disciplined people and I'm not sure your caracter feat well with that ! As for me the main reason I have a so special life is because I've never accepted to be the slave of someone who has two to five silver or gold lines on the shoulder !!!
Independance is freedom but you paid generaly a hard price for that and you suffer a lot but if you escape of the system it's fantastic...
If really you're the person you said you are Party78 ( why this avatar ? ) I hope you're not a pretty lady because otherwise it will be sad you loose your time one day in Irak !

PW

Alot of people say that but i don't care because i will prove everyone wrong, it will do me good to have alot of discipline, i need it!
Well sometimes you have to be below someone, it is the way it goes in life! There will always be someone who is higher than you and i accept that.

I used that "avatar" because it was really random and i just came up with it from the top of my head and no one would guess who i was or what ever.

I hope i don't lose my time until i am much older! whether i am pretty or not it doesn't make a difference because a career is a career. It is not just unattractive people that go in the army lol, loads of really attractive people go in and... i'm just one of them! Ha.

Thanks for your words of wisdom, you actually have made me think outside of the box!

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:But army is a place for very disciplined people and I'm not sure your caracter feat well with that ! As for me the main reason I have a so special life is because I've never accepted to be the slave of someone who has two to five silver or gold lines on the shoulder !!!
Independance is freedom but you paid generaly a hard price for that and you suffer a lot but if you escape of the system it's fantastic...
If really you're the person you said you are Party78 ( why this avatar ? ) I hope you're not a pretty lady because otherwise it will be sad you loose your time one day in Irak !

PW

oh my god, do really wanna go to iraq or afghanistan??
you can learn discipline and that someone is always higher in life also with Pierre

As you should know psychology is something I'm not so bad with ...
But I already feel you will have hard time in army, you really hate if someone push you to do what you don't want to do, and army it's just that !
My first day when I arrived in the military school, I was 17 y.o and I've walked one hour under a terrible huge storm, I was totally wet, and it was October 1, freezing like not possible. We was all in a courtyard with wind making me shaking of cold, when a sergent started like that : " Vous aviez tous une mère à la maison jusqu'à aujourd'hui, mais depuis votre arrivée, vous en avez une nouvelle, c'est la patrie représentée par l'armée ! Si demain l'armée vous ordonne de tuer votre ancienne mère, vous devrez le faire car vous serez de bon soldat disciplinés qui obéissent aux ordres sans discuter ni chercher à en connaitre les raisons "

" You all have a mother at home until today, but since your arrival, you have a new one : the homeland represented by the army ! If tomorrow the army tells you to kill your ex-mother, you'll have to do it because you'll be a good disciplined soldier who obeyed orders without question or seek to know the reasons ! "

Fron this second I already knew I had nothing to do here... but anyway I went to this place called Canjuers, ( called also the death camp with 8 months of winters, 4 months of hell ) where I've suffered a lot !
Army wasn't for me...
PW

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:But I already feel you will have hard time in army

Military live has changed much in the last decades... it´s more relaxed:
Even the Queen's Guard sentries have some entertainment while on duty:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4OoZ_ryveM

It is a shame that even people i don't know do not think i am cut out for army life, this makes me sad lol
I do think Army life has changed since then, still tough though. I was in army selection in scotland last november for 2 days and it was hell, so hard, i was just soooooo knackered but oh well! My father is hell bent (very determined) on getting me in and i think once i am in i will love it. (hopefully).

Your personality has come to shock me since talking to you, I feel rather bad on ranting insults at you now! I do apologise! It is up to anyone what they do !! I should be more mature about it!

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:As you should know psychology is something I'm not so bad with ...
But I already feel you will have hard time in army, you really hate if someone push you to do what you don't want to do, and army it's just that !
My first day when I arrived in the military school, I was 17 y.o and I've walked one hour under a terrible huge storm, I was totally wet, and it was October 1, freezing like not possible. We was all in a courtyard with wind making me shaking of cold, when a sergent started like that : " Vous aviez tous une mère à la maison jusqu'à aujourd'hui, mais depuis votre arrivée, vous en avez une nouvelle, c'est la patrie représentée par l'armée ! Si demain l'armée vous ordonne de tuer votre ancienne mère, vous devrez le faire car vous serez de bon soldat disciplinés qui obéissent aux ordres sans discuter ni chercher à en connaitre les raisons "

" You all have a mother at home until today, but since your arrival, you have a new one : the homeland represented by the army ! If tomorrow the army tells you to kill your ex-mother, you'll have to do it because you'll be a good disciplined soldier who obeyed orders without question or seek to know the reasons ! "

Fron this second I already knew I had nothing to do here... but anyway I went to this place called Canjuers, ( called also the death camp with 8 months of winters, 4 months of hell ) where I've suffered a lot !
Army wasn't for me...

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PW

Thank you for nice words, it makes me very happy to read that and makes you very mature because when someone knows to said " I apologise ", it's usually a proof his heart is correct !!! I was also not so nice to you so I send you back the same sentence but as you can imagine, so many crazy people come here and said mad things that sometime I also go in this stupid direction ...
Anyway I wish you the best and if you need some advises from an "old hairy man" you can write me private email here : woodman.prod@yahoo.com

PW

Aww Thank you! That is really nice of you and i shall keep that in mind!

I do sometimes say or do things without consulting my brain first and that should show that i am just a very immature or maybe just a very young person! I think you believe me when i say i am a young girl. lol. I wasn't really going to give my name out but i suppose it won't hurt, It's Vicky and it was nice (in the end) to meet you.

Also, your not that old! lol

It was a pleasure talking to you. Cheerio

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:Thank you for nice words, it makes me very happy to read that and makes you very mature because when someone knows to said " I apologise ", it's usually a proof his heart is correct !!! I was also not so nice to you so I send you back the same sentence but as you can imagine, so many crazy people come here and said mad things that sometime I also go in this stupid direction ...
Anyway I wish you the best and if you need some advises from an "old hairy man" you can write me private email here : woodman.prod@yahoo.com

PW

Oh putain... Canjuers... L'enfer blanc . J'y ai fait 2 semaines de terrain en fevrier il y a une quinzaine d'annees . J'ai cru que ce putain de froid me ferait crever. Je me languissais meme de rentrer à la caserne , c'est tout dire... Et les pauvres mecs des DOM TOM qui decouvraient les rigueurs de l'hiver varois !
Mister Woodman , je compatis sincerement à ta douloureuse experience passée !