Gabriella is my "sister" I love her more than anyone else in the biz, so you took the wrong sample because I know every details of her life !

She was working in Bratislava hospital as medical assistant with something like 200 euros a month. Today she's my make up and do this money in 15 mn when doing a maquillage on a face. She bought the appartment where she lives, has a new car, and can feed her two childrens since 10 years without the help of anyone else !
She could have done much more money if she wanted but she's happy like that and I prefer also she has this sweet mentality !!!
She is just fantastic...

PW

Ok Pierre you think that i have a bad opinion about the porn business
No bad no beautiful
I'm only pragmatic
If also your "sister" doesn't talk with good words about porn 2010..
I think she's right..but when i see Angelica Bella comeback to porn (she's very nice she worked when the porn was much rich) i have too questions

Gabriella speak bad in 2010 about the general atmosphere inside porn industry today, she's like me, very sad to see how this business is going the wrong direction with more and more crazy things to do to make the custommers happy, nobody ready to paid for a nice production and only piracy growing up more and more !
This is what she want to said because she can see every day the result of all this shit !!!
I'm lucky to have all my fans ready to give me their support otherwise it's long time I'll have stopped this business...

PW

50 scenes, huh? And what happens when they reach the "turning point" I mentioned earlier? When they realise that porn isn't the way for them to make a living (because of different reasons also mentioned earlier) that comes sooner or later and they aren't porn producers yet?
They have a house (big deal - real estate is quite cheap in Eastern Europe) for sure, but what about the upkeep? What are they going to do with their wasted youth and porn past behind them? How are they going to earn money in the future?

Again it's like I told you: telling people to play lottery in order to make a living. It will work out for a very few people, but the huge majority is just going to fall. Not to mention the current (and future) state of porn business. That € 500 is going to drop soon (if it isn't already) and even Russian girls will be reluctant to do it (plus Russia is an emerging market and if they don't screw it up in a few decades they are going to be an economic superpower with plenty of jobs).

And one more thing: McDonalds isn't really an opportunity (as it was in the beginning of the '90s) nowadays - today only fools, or students work there taking it as a part-time job. With a good education and speaking at least 1 foreign language you can get a job even in Eastern Europe and make an honest living (sure not € 25000, but a decent amount of money anyway).

As I said in my castings:

two ways to be on earth :
1 - like everybody
2- not like everybody

and two ways to be fucked :
1- abstract
2- concret

All is a question of choice but in anycase everyone has to paid a credit to the life !!!
The question is to know if you want a 40 years long credit and get free at 60 years old without any problem and without anyone show you with a finger in the street or do you want a five to ten years credit with the risk any one show you and can tell you're a bitch !
In both case you buy the freedom to the life, but price is different, small but on long range in solution 1, short but heavy in solution 2, what is sure in both case you're fucked, concretly in solution 2 and abstrait in solution 1 because it's when you're 40 years old, you've your childrens your family builded, you're tied-up and you understand every morning when you wake up that the pain in your ass it's the big dick of the life deeply sticken inside you and it will stay here for the 20 next years !!!
So what is the best choice ? Been free early with chance to be rich if you're cleaver and never work again after 30 year old or suffering all life and be free only of not working anymore at 62 years old ? The question is just that !!!

PW

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:she's like me, very sad to see how this business is going the wrong direction with more and more crazy things to do to make the custommers happy, nobody ready to paid for a nice production and only piracy growing up more and more !

PW

About piracy what do you think about the shooting online?

Well you failed to convince me and to deny the fact that most girls quit after a few sessions and they find it hard to handle any develpoment that might emerge because of their porn past.
Sure they have a house and a car (I even find that hard to believe, but lets just assume that everything is just as you say) but there they are, after they've quit with some money in their bank account and what else? The money is dwindling quickly and they can't do anything else, but get a "normal" job.
And we are back at my question again from my previous post...

no more to said ...

PW

BOTH have good points!


1. Atisz, "NOT every girl can be expected to be the new jenna jameson or boroka balls."
2. Pierre, "In both ways you're fucked as a (eastern european) girl!"

Once a girls get in porn she have to do lots of scenes to make a decent amount of money (to be able to make a living doing other non-porn business), but doing a decent amount of scenes brings along more publication and thus semi-celebrity status and more risk to get known as "dirty lowclass pornstar" (not my words!!!!).

Either way, it will be hard for a porn girl to make it BIG in this mean harsh world IF she wants a new career OUTSIDE porn BUT STILL IN THE MAINSTREAM/ENTERTAINMENT TV!!!! or on TV as a famous journalist for example.
"NORMAL" career IN THE MAINSTREAM PUBLIC can be difficult but not impossible. If the girl will remain a small time person in normal business section x,y,z, and colleagues will find out, than it can be uncomfortable. If she become a teacher and students find out, than its bye bye.
Very very hard to say what will happen if girl does whatever business after porn. If she will make it, it depends on all sort of stuff.
For example, if she decides to invest her porn money in property, houses, etc as a
Girl will make a better chance if she will not be depended on others and in a business WHERE MONEY IS THE ONLY THING THAT SPEAKS!! As said, investing in business or real estate being some examples.
Anyhow, men/women wil do business with now rich girl in work section (non porn related) but they will NOT let her know that he/she will never take ex- porn girl seriously, I think.
I dont agree with atisz where he thinks that the girl will be lost in life and can just as well make suicide.
It depends on all sorts of things, what type of business you will do now!!

FOR EXAMPLE, I just asked pierre about a girl called susanna/zuzana spears.
with-pierre/susana-spears-michaela-t1378-10.html

I knew here from some petter hegre art photos, I asked him in another thread about whatever happened to her and if there is material of her still there. He responded she moved on to other business activity.
I did not know what Pierre meant. So I Googled and found out she now endeavours a career in mainstream fitness.
BUT, she cant make it big she said, because of her former career in porn. Business people refuse to take her serious and sponsers don’t want to associate themselves with a former porngirl. I find this sad! There are indeed examptions but generally speaking most girls are fucked making a serious business outside porn without redicule, gossip or whatever etc. But im afraid this is something very very common for ex porngirls. Sorry to say, this is not Hollywood, this is real life!! It will be hard to get accepted by the general mainstream public at large.

Pick a good (low profile) career after porn!!!!

Zuzana: I made a lot of bad choices when I was a teenage girl – leaving school, leaving home, trying to go out into the world much too young on my own. I got involved in something that I shouldn’t have and I wish that I could take it back. When I was 18 in a state of emotional desperation without money, job, a home or education I took a job as an erotic model. That particular choice almost ruined my entire life and led to years of darkness and abuse. I had no idea how hard it would be to pull out of it or how devastating it would be emotionally and on my spirit. It is a trap that a lot of young girls in eastern Europe fall into and I feel very lucky to have survived the experience, because many girls don’t. When you see these girls in the pictures smiling almost like they are happy having their clothes off and being exposed like this – it is the biggest lie of all. I have never met a single girl who was happy to be doing that job. Contrary to popular belief these girls don’t make a lot money doing this and they end up broken inside and left with no self-confidence or feelings of self worth. Many of them turn to drugs and alcohol to help numb the pain. The shame and the incredible fear of judgement keeps them locked into this spiral. In the end the only people who benefit from the wreckage of all these lives are the photographers and the multinational corporations like visa and mastercard who pocket money every time images of one of these girls is sold online. Freddy had been encouraging me to move out of this since we met, but he had to be in Canada most of the time and I knew that he could not fight my battle. I finally got the courage to stop and change my life when I hit the bottom. I was in debt, I was completely emotionally broken and on the verge of being an alcoholic which is something that scared me because my father is a raging alcoholic and I didn’t want to end up like that. I quit everything and told myself that I had to push through no matter what. I didn’t want to continue my life the way it was, but I didn’t want to give up living either. When you know that you have to make a major shift in your life it is always terrifying and that’s why many people get stuck in the darkness, because they feel safe in the familiar even if that reality is killing them slowly. So I quit and that was years ago. I have absolutely nothing to do with it anymore and I am not profiting from it in any way. I have a dream about doing something to help stop the cycle of exploitation that feeds on these young girls and destroys their lives.

Every once in a while people try to slap me in my face with the mistakes I made to try to humiliate me and hurt me. They see the new direction that I have taken in fitness and health and this seems to infuriate them like I am impostor in my own life, like I can never be more than that broken, scared person that I was.

The other day the CEO of one of the largest fitness companies in the United States was on the phone with Freddy. They called us out of the blue because they were interested in working with us. The next day they called back and the CEO said that they couldn’t work with us directly because their marketing department just couldn’t find a way to ”make it look good”. They said their brand couldn’t associate with me because of my past, however that didn’t stop them from suggesting that we sell their products on our blog to our community. That obviously won’t be happening.

The message was loud and clear – personal transformations are ok as long as they are only skin deep. I am very happy with my life right now and I can say that I am finally living the way I always wanted. My life is full of love and happiness.

http://www.bodyrock.tv/2011/01/04/my-interview/

Zuzana sees porn as a dark place for young eastern european girls, no matter how much they keep on smiling in the movies.

PIERRE,
Is this a stragety of zuzana (or any other girl) to say this to make more commercial for her self and her new business section,

or do you think she was fake smiling when you make porn with her and she was terrified by you without having the guts to tell you because she needed the green(money)????

I don't know what to believe anymore. I only know that a girl will MOST LIKELY will not enter porn with enough money from mama or papa/education. Zuzana is only a SOFTCORE model, I wonder what (According to her!!!!) HARDCORE models will REALLY think of the porn biz.

To conclude,

MY MEANING IS NEUTRAL, like I said earlier both parties have good points!!!!

Difficult to answer but even if I respect a lot Suzana I will tell you my true feeling :

First she never worked with me and I never have any problem with her. I think she's a very sympathetic and intelligent girl but :

- Why staying so long in an industry you hate ? Any time you can go back to a "regular" life, working for a normal salary and nobody obliged her to show her pussy to the world ! So it wasn't so bad for her even if i'm sure some people have been missing respect to her !

- Today she turned the page, she clearly explained that her past is an heavy weight to carry when she wish to do some work for a company who doesn't like erotic world, so now she get the point she wished and is happy, she do like 99% of the girls, she split in the plate who has feed her for years, but not because she's a bad person, just because by doing this she save her head for the future and get apreciate by the media who forgive her because " she was abused " !!!
It's the same with Yasmyne from Dorcel who did a rude interview last week for a famous magazine in France where she speak very bad about our industry, but she just forget if someone make an interview with her, it's because she got a name, just she forgot how she got that name !!!!

Suzana is the same I think, a nice girl who doesn't want accept the fact without her past, her life will be probabily totaly different today and her dreams will never have comes true ! But it's difficult to admit...
As I said there is a price to paid to became "somebody on google" but staying humble after a certain point, request to be much older than all those young girls !!!

PW