spanishfan wrote:I have been reading this thread and I find myself let's said "between two waters". I have been seen Pierre's CX since for more than 15 years and have seen many of his films too (not all, but many of them).

And of course he won many Porn Film Awards (sure he deserved them) due to the quality either of the films per se, and of the actors/actresses that performed them.
And I think the WUNF idea is another cool way to enjoy Pierre and his girls in a different way (although sometimes is difficult to believe someone can be asleep with the curtains open and the sun hitting your face, I don't believe that, but it's a minor detail for me).

BUT

I prefer a thousand times a regular girl answering "yes, i like to suck, yes i swallow, yes i do anal" (or no) than seeing a scene of any of his movies. As I said in another post months ago, I can admire the difference of quality between Pierre's movies and other directors' (and there is difference, of course), but.... all prepared, all artificial (not saying the actors don't enjoy), girls are already professional (they have signed a contract before shooting), most thinking only in money....
Porn movies are boring. Everybody knows we men fast forward the movies to the scenes, and many times, the scenes to the cumshots.

Pierre IS different for his castings, and not accepting that, is an evasion from the reality. He is also a great porn movies director, probably the best, I agree, but... he is just another one. In his CX HE IS UNIQUE. Girls enjoy, they are unexpecting what can happen to them (just good things ), they are not proffesional, they are just our neighbours, university classmates, friends or girlfriends naking her intimacy first in the questionnaires and her body later in the bed. They don't act, just enjoy themselves with Pierre's treatment. THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PIERRE and anyone else. He changed porn world perspective with this series. Everybody started (just trying) doing something similar to what he was doing and of course as we say in Spain, comparisons are hateable. The rest was just rubbish trying-to-get-to. Everybody wanted to be Pierre Woodman and that is impossible.

So let's just be sincere here, I bet 90% of the members are here because of the CX, not the movies. And, if you allow me, let's praise God, Allah, Buda, Confucio or whoever you pray, that we can continue enjoy Pierre's work for many time.

Best greetings
spanishfan

toi wrote:Daken, I think you obviate to notice one trend in the industry: Girls are more reluctant than ever on signing the release format of their true first initiation casting. They know that once it is on the internet it cannot be deleted and everyone will have access to the video. Just look at Pierre's castings: We have many initiations with women who are now married with children and with professional careers and who probably only did that casting or a video or two. In the past it was easy to forgive or hide their former porn career, now it is impossible. Girls know that and are more careful. Look at the board, this year alone there has been a couple of cases of girls who had SERIOUS problems in their personal life due to their sex videos with Pierre.
As a result we have less videos where Pierre participates and lets be honest, we like the castings with a sex scene together with Delon, Brosman, etc but it is not the same. We want to see Pierre on the videos and not another dude. The closest thing Pierre can now offer us is WUNF. I prefer to see Jessica Koks on WUNF with Pierre than not seeing her at all with him!

This is a business and Pierre is trying to do things which pleases his fans. He does what he can. His solutions might not be the perfect. Nevertheless, WUNF is closer to a traditional Casting X than anything from the competition (Casting Couch, Rocco, Rosenberg, etc). WUNF looks natural and real while the castings from the competition look completely staged and faked.

Instead of simply complaining, which realistic alternatives do you suggest?

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:Thanks Youdaman
maybe Daken is a famous man very occupied and doesn't know what I'm doing ! In 2002 I had the chance to meet personnaly one of the most famous porn director in the world : Pedro Almodovar.
He told me " I love your casting, all the rest of the porn industry is just shit " so didn't mentionned that I was also doing movies
So of course we can forgive Daken to not know, but I'm sure he knows and just play !!!

PW

youdaman wrote:

Daken wrote:And that is what you are famous for - your castings. Not the normal porn stuff.
I dont like to burst your bubble, but there are tons of porn directors out there who are better than you in that.
And so..

Pierre is famous only for his castings, huh? Well, that statement really bothers me. Did you know that Pierre had about six or seven best selling movies before his casting series even came out? Including one of the best selling porn movies of all time--"The Pyramid"! If it wasn't these blockbuster movies, no one would have even started watching the Casting X series! Also, you say there are tons of directors out there that are better than Pierre at, as you say, the "porn stuff". In my opinion, that statement is just laughable and proves you're not a true Woodman Fan. Pierre's won so many awards, he doesn't even know where to put them. He's the best selling European porn director of all time. He put his life on the the line, time after time, to make his movies. He shot in the most dangerous and forbidden places in the world. No adult filmmaker these days has the balls or passion to shoot where he did. He is simply the best...

The Canadian.