I think the person who launched this topic essentialy talked about girls motivated by money. We all agree that theres is girls who do all kinds of things for free, for fantaisies, ect, but theres is still a very large amount of girls who will ask money, otherwise agents would not exist anymore, escort biz too, ect. Benevole/charity stuff deosnt build big industry.

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: We are still in this idiotic spirit of " a girl who fuck 10 men is a bitch, a man who fuck 10 girls is a superman", WTF all morons much stay away from watching porn !!!

PW

I agree, but understand, logicaly, that what people see in porn push the spirit this way. Nelly said she have many fantaisies, ask Hakim or Ricci Mancini to open their mouth and drink Nelly urine, if she have this fantasie, would they be ok ? Also gangbang stuff is essentialy a woman fucked by multiple men, i don't watch gay stuff but i think theres less gangbang with men no ? So it's just the porn industry that is, and will always be macho and majority oriented to please "guy" audience, it's guys who pay, logic.

And i'm not talking about the "dialogues-dub" of all your big classic of private era, you can't totaly blame people for having difficult to égalise men/women respect in porn.

Sorry i reformule to not confuse you Pierre, go on any of tubes site and try to find an "interacial gangbang" where theres no "yeaaaah this is bitch, white bitch mothafucka" dialogues, you will not find it, it's a true reality fact, how do want that people/yougn guy watching this at home will have difficult to be "subtil" in their way of thinking ? It's just impossible, or we should only watch old stuff from "ovidie" who are porn féminist in what she film. I like watch everything, spécialy yoyr work.

Jean wrote:

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: We are still in this idiotic spirit of " a girl who fuck 10 men is a bitch, a man who fuck 10 girls is a superman", WTF all morons much stay away from watching porn !!!

PW

And i'm not talking about the "dialogues-dub" of all your big classic of private era, you can't totaly blame people for having difficult to égalise men/women respect in porn.

I agree with this. Men are primary, or even secondary consumers of porn. Even people who have really filthy fantasies, they are psycho perverts to me (like what Pierre said about men eating shit). In that regard, I see porn as a reflection of male-female relationship; women who fucked hundred guys are piece of shit sluts, while men are studs. Women will always be lower on totem-pole. Like Cicolina. People are likely to remember her for her hardcore work than career of politician.

Many girls go to porn or escort because they want a lot of money and travel, but they don’t want to work and don’t want to spend time getting an education. I talked with one girl on instagram she is a porn actress. She told how she got into this industry. She did not study well at school and didn’t even try to go to university or the college because she knew that she didn’t have enough knowledge to do it. She didn’t want to work without education for hard, low-paid work and went to the agency, the first year she worked as a nude model, but such work did not bring a lot of money and there was little work and the agent suggested she try porn.At first, she refused because she did not want a condemnation from her relatives, but the money took over the feelings and after a few weeks she told her agent that she agreed to this job. She doesn't do very hardcore scenes, with just one boy or a lesbian.As she wrote then many nude models have boyfriends whom they materially contain.

I don't know how much Timea Bella earned in Switzerland as an escort. Actually no Porn-escort ever disclosed to me how much she earned in a Swiss tour. I think, the names of more popular pornstars aren't that well known around here. I write regularly on special forums concering porn escorts since years and they are far from being as popular as the just another escort who does good service. I don't say that I know better because I did actually meet up with such models or that I am one of the few here who can read german language forums, but there are a few more hints.

There are two major advertisment sites for the German part of Switzerland and the much bigger one of them has a view counter to show the popularity of a certain girl. Pornstars are definitely not popular around here. Then there are the search rankings of certain sites and also there, pornstars from eastern Europe aren't that popular in Switzerland either. Models like Jessyka Swan or Nomi Melone were doing very small short time visits and I guess the money earned from a two days stay in the cities' cheapest sex club won't be so great. There are only a handful clubs and escort agencies which regularly work with escorts in German-Switzerland. I someone does not believe me, is invited to make an internet research to prove me wrong.

I don't know how many escort operators you know in my country and even if it may sound odd to you: I happen to know quite a few of them personally, working and talking with them regularly. This may look like it is a small sample but I live in the second biggest city and even if you don't believe it, the number of incall locations are tight numbered. Prostitution as a whole here is much more controlled and regulated as many think. As said already, I am just an anonymous dude from the internet and I am aware of too many people pretending to be something they are not.

Porn is sex for money, escorting is sex for money. Why are you so surprised? And a porn star--especially a real "star"--could charge a lot more than the average girl. Just think about it! And she can be completely in charge. If she says no anal, what is the guy going to do? Rape her?

--Well, sadly, I suppose there a number of "johns" who might . . . but do you get my point?

I was always under the impression that many--not most, but many--porn actresses escort. How often? Depends. And many only take high-end clientale. They charge a lot!!

If any members are porn actresses, I'd be interested to get their opinions. I say Nelly Kent replied.

Capmann

One point where you are wrong ...

I have seen girl doing porn for free, I have never seen an escort been prostitute for free ... but I've seen some prostitutes fucking "sometimes" for free !!!

PW

rien n'est vraiment gratuit , un petit café à 2 balles jusqu'a la bague qui coute la peau des couilles en passant par le bouquet de 36 fleurs ( de mes couilles )

La prostitution pour le plaisir existe aussi...

ouais c'est ce qu'on doit appeller libertine , elle se font enculer gratuit pendant que leur cheri prend des photos en se touchant les couilles parce qu'il bande pas depuis 20 ans