Pierre you are acting like a 5 years old girl who had just had a cat fight. Stop doing that. You keep spreading all these insults trying to hurt her, but you will end up hurting yourself. It is not in your personal interest to continue this dispute. It will create you further problems in your relation with the wider industry. You are starting to involve more and more people in this dispute without any apparent reason. If you keep acting like this they will isolate you, right or wrong. Stop a little bit, calm down and try to think clearer.

Pornographically speaking, you didn't do anything wrong and this is what Manuel also implies. What you did is that you handled the entire situation WRONG and you fucked up her PSYCHOLOGY, causing her to get scared and try to run away from you. It was a series of mistakes that should have been avoided by you at any cost. You were carried away from her "dirtier" image and you didn't estimate the fact that maybe things are not as they seem. You are not the first nor the last one who does this dreadful mistake. But instead of resolving the issue simply and quietly you escalate it without any apparent gain. And ok she is a 20 years who doesnt have experience on how to handle these cases. You are though 50 who instead of stopping this issue from the beginning you continue to pour oil onto the fire, until today.

I do not think you are this kind of rapist with the hard sense because Dereck wouldn't trust you his girls if you were. However, it is possible to rape someone in many other ways and this is what she is claiming. Unfortunately it is true that you GIVE generally a very nasty impression which is enough for people to make speculations and girls to feel afraid of you. I just mentioned the reasons above. So, you have to start cleaning your image and protect yourself from... your own self.

Now, From the very start, you dealt the whole thing wrong and unprofessionally. One mistake after another. You do NOT ask a girl who is already loaded with several negative opinions that other people say about you to take you a bj in public. This is the worst thing you can do to a model of her caliber. You made her feel like trash. Lana is a top notch American adult performer, not a street hooker. (Only this action is enough for Dereck to stop talking to you). Very VERY bad idea. I dunno what you had in your mind.

Then you call her robotic. Seriously? Greg Lansky, Mason or Herve Bodilis do not hire robotic girls for showcases. The adjective was completely unfortunate. That raping incident though she said you mentioned in the car, I think it was a misunderstanding. I really cannot believe you were so stupid to do that in reality, but mentioning it in front of her was enough to make it worst. I am telling you Pierre by the time she reached your place she has already made her decision.

The fact that she locked herself in her room for 20 hours should make you suspicious that something was quite wrong. Then this suggestion about this DAP came to cap things off. And let say adult viewers can be carried away by promotional crap but you should know more than anyone else how dangerous is this act and what consequences can have to a girls brand. I am sure she didn't have any mood at all to be tricked into this act again. So this is what happened and you made her desperately to try to find an escape.

Afterwards she explained you in the text what happened in a nice way but when you started to mention Stella and her videos you made her furious. It was logical to react like she did. Everybody with feelings would. You could have stopped everything a log time before claiming that it was all a fault and you could try to apologize. You might have raise your possibilities to escape clean and forgiven but when you started to post this crap about her videos you brought yourself in a very difficult position. You understand that if Derreck finds out your posts you are in big trouble!

So I am telling you for one more time. Pierre calm down and listen to the voice of reason. You fucked up with Lana but you have still time to correct this mess. Don't drug yourself into this kind of dispute and try to save your dignity. Things are really shitty but at least you will show a good face. Try to make something positive out of this and make way for a new start. Lana is not any of the things you say for the very same reason you accuse her. She tried to LEAVE than risking to be tricked and abused for one more time. She fucked up too before and she paid the heavy cost. But at least she is trying to assemble her pieces and move forward. Only for that she deserves respect.

I agree with some this guy a bit about getting bad spot with her agent Derek, if he turns on you too maybe you cant get these American stars anymore which would be a big disappointment.

You fucked up with Lana but you have still time to correct this mess.

Who are you Stargrek ???
Obviously you know a lot about the porn industry and are part of it but I don't accept some of your ideas you have developped here !!!
Let me tell what I will have to tell in 3 days, showing some evidences and we will see if I "fucked up" anything or if she is a fucking liar !!!

her agent Derek, if he turns on you too maybe you cant get these American stars anymore which would be a big disappointment.

Well I have always had a huge respect for Derek Hay and always taken his side when a lot of people told the worst about him.
Today I don't know what will be the future of our relations because Lana is his jewel, his gold mine and it's clear this situation upset him a lot.
If he decides to take her side in future and break so many years of friendly for this liar then it will be sad but will show he was not a real friend, but if, as I hope, he accepts to understand it's the first time an american girl pretend such insane things about me and did all her best to put this mess on the table when myself I did not wanted make any comment about it, then maybe we will forget all soon and stay good friends.

In any case, I have good relationship with the boss of ATM LA ( Elsa Dream Jean did not succeed with her lies to make him stopping collaborate with me ), I like John the boss of Matrix models and Mark Spiegler is a old friend who has brought me his support this week because he knows better than anyone how Lana is in true inside her black heart !!!

PW

..She has a nice ass..!

Pierre,

Stargrek is desperately trying to protect his goddess, Lana. You can see his posts on EBI's Lana Rhoades thread recently and he had a lot of the same on ADT also until her original thread was taken down. He's beyond obsessed with her, writing long, flowery tributes to his goddess. He is in the process of writing "her story" on EBI.

Yes I understand that !!!
One of the good side of this story is, now I can see better who are my friends and also here on this forum to clean up a bit people who just use this problem to trash me !!!

PW

Dear all, I am tired from this discussion as a client. I dont understand, why you make such a hype arround an US "star"...

My opinion is, that the most US stars are bad performers and not interesting.. you can see it in EBF how many people write about US performer and about European performer...

I like to see more from the Hungarian, Czech or Russian performer and also from the European producers, cause I think, the US mentality is different...

It is clear, that the US porn industry want join in the market from Europe, and I feel that they want join in a way to try to destroy the European industry, but it doesnt work. Nobody or maybe only a few want see this kind of movie from US, where you can see that the actresses ar only playing without any feeling.

The European performer plays, but they show is better.. with more feeling... and this is, what makes the East European performer more atractiv.

If you see for instance Porno Dan... he is maybe a nice guy, but he plays and speaks like a child... can be that the US people like it, but I cant listen it.. I swich off the loudspeaker.

PW shows more reality.. or it looks more real. This is the difference.

Forget all "Lanas" and all "US porn stars"..

the clients will see, what they want, and not to see your war between the producers. You can do it in a boxing ring or in a kindergarden, but not in internet.

Pierre had every reason to defend himself from the trash that is lana Rhoades it is his reputation at stake here. Yes people may be fed up of it but when you have a person who says horrible things about you then I support him. As for American girls yes some may be very boring and I agree European girls are better. But let us all not assume every American girl is trash like Lana. I can think of many such as Kayla Kayden who is a top performer. Let us forget about that psycho Lana.

Porno Dan... he is maybe a nice guy

Well he does not speak to me since this story. Another "REAL FRIEND" from USA !!! LOL

I agree that european girls are more real ... FOR ME because I get them first in most cases but after they have 2 years of porn in the legs 80 % of them are not so different than americans and does the same "hi han" "hi han" donkey scream that I hate so much !!!
Trust me there are incredible and bad performers enjoying for true or for fake in both part of the world.

I understand people can be annoyed by the war I can have sometime but this is a forum and I tell what I have to tell.
What will be the situation for me if I haven't destroyed all lies Lana said ?
For sure now I'll be in trouble because her twitter is 6 times bigger than mine and my voice will not exist. But this forum as over 20 000 people every day and it changes all parameters ...
Anyway, in 2 days I will do a final post about this story and I will not speak again about this girl.

PW

StarGrek wrote:Lana Rhoades is a very tragic figure.

What an unbelievable load of BS... Ok, the guy who wrote that is a Lana fanboy and I don't blame him, she's so gorgeous, but making her "a very tragic figure" makes me laugh real heard. We're talking about a 20 years old who willingly chose to shoot porn instead of doing something else. How is that tragic? Does she have issues? Did she suffer in her pastlife? Come on, she can go to the shrink or write a blog but please, keep calm and stop amplifying this silly story.

StarGrek wrote: I am not fucking kidding Pierre this girl needs every help she can get.

Ok, maybe she could start by respecting coworkers or even stopping porn activities. Why should Pierre deal with her issues? He's no psychiatrist, he's a fucking porn director!