RUSSIA - UKRAINE 2022 CONFLICT

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Says the dumb fuck that last time he posted here posted obvious russian propaganda lies about Zelensky :lol: :lol: :lol:

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That is not true at all. If USA invades Iraq I blame USA etc. You blame everything on USA and Europe no matter what. Even if Russia invades Ukraine you blame USA or Europe. Russian imperialism you have no problem with at all. Take Syria were you talk time and time again about USA but ignore the prootest in the region that said to Putin : " stop buring Aleppo".
Well I am sure some people in Syria are not happy about russians but I can easily imagine without the help of Russia what will be the aspect of this country today !!!
100 % sure it will be like the great countries been "saved" by Oncle Sam , like Iraq ( laic and peaceful in 2001 but now with the charria and over 1,2 millions lives lost !!! Or maybe like Libia in civilian wars and few hundred of thousand people dead after been "liberated" form Khadafi by France and USA ...
the list is long and we got 11,5 millions people dead at the end ...

Sadly Ukrain is on the same way if Brussels don't understand what they should do to save this country which is for sure not to give them weapons !!!

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PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:21 pm
That is not true at all. If USA invades Iraq I blame USA etc. You blame everything on USA and Europe no matter what. Even if Russia invades Ukraine you blame USA or Europe. Russian imperialism you have no problem with at all. Take Syria were you talk time and time again about USA but ignore the prootest in the region that said to Putin : " stop buring Aleppo".
Well I am sure some people in Syria are not happy about russians but I can easily imagine without the help of Russia what will be the aspect of this country today !!!

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Don't listen to the dumb asses!
I will briefly remind you of the background.
It was the US that actually created ISIS, as most terrorist organizations were created before that in order to solve their situational interests. ISIS was created by former Iraqi military and intelligence officers who were bribed and used by the US to betray and fight Saadam Hussein. After Hussein's overthrow, the US did not need them and they were not allowed to take power in Iraq. They didn't like it and created ISIS. ISIS began to grow rapidly throughout the Middle East. And no one prevented them at first, and the U.S. actually helped them by starting a fight with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, because it was the Syrian People's Army that was resisting ISIS. Assad was forced to formally ask for help from Russia. Potential terrorists from Central Asia flocked to ISIS. There are a lot of Central Asian migrants in Russia, and the Russian leadership decided that it was better to destroy potential terrorists on foreign territory than to fight them on their own. All countries abandoned Syria, and only Russia helped it! After Russia introduced its military contingent into Syria, the Russian army began to methodically destroy terrorists and together with the Syrian Army to liberate Syrian cities, including Alleppo. Syrians are now extremely grateful to Russia.
I personally was and participated in this war, and saw everything with my own eyes!!!
After Russia began to destroy ISIS, the U.S. realized that it was necessary to take credit for Russia's victory, immediately turned on its propaganda machine against ISIS, and began to strike them. In fact, they created them to begin with, and then declared them terrorists and started fighting them. Typical U.S. policy. It was the same with all terrorists created by US intelligence agencies before.
This is how it really was. The main thing here is that Russia was invited to help by the official Syrian authorities, all within the framework of international law, and no one called the United States and NATO to Syria. They are there illegally. Only they don't care about that because they have a bunch of zombified El Fools who will always justify their policies and crimes.

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Yes thank god for the russians war crimes in bombing Aleppo.

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El Major wrote:
Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:28 pm
Says the dumb fuck that last time he posted here posted obvious russian propaganda lies about Zelensky :lol: :lol: :lol:
Unlike you I'm able to admit that I might be wrong. But you're a stubborn, rude twerp who isn't willing to admit that he could be wrong and who believes western propaganda and sees anything that doesn't correlate with his views as a "Russian propaganda".

And who invited you here? This topic is for civil conversation, to have a dialogue, to give arguments, but you're only here to say that everyone else says is Russian propaganda and throw insults to those who disagree with you! Get out of here! You're not welcome here unless you stop throwing insults and give some arguments to your claims. You don't like what you read here, get the hell out of here. You're clearly unable to engage in civil conversation and discuss topics and this topic is not for you. Don't come here, don't fill the space with your useless comments. Nobody needs you here. You weren't called here. You're not welcome here. Get out of here and don't ever come back.

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BlackSon wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:44 am
Unlike you I'm able to admit that I might be wrong. But you're a stubborn, rude twerp who isn't willing to admit that he could be wrong and who believes western propaganda and sees anything that doesn't correlate with his views as a "Russian propaganda".
You're in no hurry to apologize!
No one has officially denied this information yet. And Deutsche Welle is a lying cesspool. They will sell their mother's mother and their ass for money and then publish any false article they want.
In any case, even if this information is not verified, the USA itself published information about Zelensky's offshore accounts and assets before the war, and then "hushed it all up for a while". So there is no need to talk about Zelensky's "poverty" and the legality of the origin of his assets...).

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BlackSon wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:51 am
El Major wrote:
Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:28 pm
Says the dumb fuck that last time he posted here posted obvious russian propaganda lies about Zelensky :lol: :lol: :lol:
And who invited you here? This topic is for civil conversation, to have a dialogue, to give arguments, but you're only here to say that everyone else says is Russian propaganda and throw insults to those who disagree with you! Get out of here! You're not welcome here unless you stop throwing insults and give some arguments to your claims. You don't like what you read here, get the hell out of here. You're clearly unable to engage in civil conversation and discuss topics and this topic is not for you. Don't come here, don't fill the space with your useless comments. Nobody needs you here. You weren't called here. You're not welcome here. Get out of here and don't ever come back.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:04 pm

Europe has millions and millions of people in very bad financial situation and instead spend money for them, build hospitals, roads, schools, police, firemen and various infrastructures they prefer put oil on fire making the war longer
It's not all dark, there's also some good news !

https://www.lalsace.fr/societe/2024/04/ ... -des-ehpad

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L'Ukraine, qui cherche à faire revenir au pays ses citoyens en âge de combattre, ne délivrera plus de passeports à l'étranger aux hommes âgés de 18 à 60 ans, selon un texte publié par le gouvernement mercredi.
Kiev interdit aux hommes en âge de combattre de voyager à l'étranger à quelques exceptions près. Mais, selon des estimations de médias, des dizaines de milliers d'hommes ont fui le pays illégalement pour éviter d'aller au front.

Les autorités ont récemment adopté une loi sur la mobilisation visant à durcir les punitions pour les récalcitrants. Elles ont aussi baissé l'âge de mobilisation de 27 à 25 ans
Bon moi je pense très simplement que si un homme veut aller faire la guerre, il y va, s'il a pas envi, il y va pas, mais c'est pas bien de "forcer" les gens...

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Jean wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2024 9:35 pm
L'Ukraine, qui cherche à faire revenir au pays ses citoyens en âge de combattre, ne délivrera plus de passeports à l'étranger aux hommes âgés de 18 à 60 ans, selon un texte publié par le gouvernement mercredi.
Kiev interdit aux hommes en âge de combattre de voyager à l'étranger à quelques exceptions près. Mais, selon des estimations de médias, des dizaines de milliers d'hommes ont fui le pays illégalement pour éviter d'aller au front.

Les autorités ont récemment adopté une loi sur la mobilisation visant à durcir les punitions pour les récalcitrants. Elles ont aussi baissé l'âge de mobilisation de 27 à 25 ans
Bon moi je pense très simplement que si un homme veut aller faire la guerre, il y va, s'il a pas envi, il y va pas, mais c'est pas bien de "forcer" les gens...
Alors, qui défendra les intérêts de l'Occident collectif, jusqu'au dernier Ukrainien ?

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