milster wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 30, 2022 7:53 pm

MVitaly5 wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 30, 2022 6:23 pm

Zelensky today: "Today we signed an application for accelerated accession to NATO!

Stoltenberg today: "There is no question of Ukraine's accelerated accession to NATO, and there is no such question in the short term either. In other words: "Fuck you, junkie Zelensky, we are not ready to enter an official war with Russia, our asshole is not iron! We are ready to supply you with all the weapons we have, so that you can quickly destroy the entire population of Ukraine, for the sake of our ambitions against Russia.

Russian hackers do not sleep. Putin interrupted Stoltenberg on German TV.
https://youtu.be/KLyINNXf-YE

I wonder who gave that faggot and failed actor money to candidate for presidency, while allying with real Nazis, like Azov.

Ok. One time I bother to do this . But just to prove that you again like the pro putin crowd here get fact wrong almost all of the time

El Major wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 29, 2023 5:22 pm

Ok. One time I bother to do this . But just to prove that you again like the pro putin crowd here get fact wrong almost all of the time

I hope you do know there's a difference between "being against someone" and "not being for/with/pro someone". Because it's not the same. I'm not sure there're a lot of "for Putin" here, looks like they're just "against" NATO and EU rather than "pro-Putin"

This is the problem here. I just showed you you were wrong in your previous statement. Why should I keep proving you wrong 100 times ? I think we are done here

El Major wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 29, 2023 6:20 pm

This is the problem here. I just showed you you were wrong in your previous statement. Why should I keep proving you wrong 100 times ? I think we are done here

Don't mix things. You showed me an example of calling Zelensky a faggot and said that pro-Putins get facts almost all of the time. Then I said about the difference. So, yeah, I stand corrected about name-calling, and then you call me wrong because... why? I didn't say anything contradictory to your statement. I didn't say anything about right or wrong, I just suggested that you might mistake people for something else. That doesn't contradict your statement

BlackSon wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 29, 2023 4:39 pm

El Major wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 29, 2023 12:03 pm

Yeah . You agree with the intellectual giants that has proven to be homophobic and racist etc. Calling Zelensky a faggott etc.

Offcourse he also know history and is right here aswell so its me that dont inderstand anything Pierre. Supporting Putin was right all along Pierre . Peolple like him is the way to go

Now it seems you're imagining things. Cause I've heard people call Zelensky many things, and faggot is not one of them

I said you were wrong on this and I proved it. Why should I bother spending time on proving you wrong again and again. There are people here that have said they have been a Putin fan for a decade. Thats pro Putin . But I am done now.

I am here to support Pierre work. Not this shit..

@El Major

Supporting Putin was right all along Pierre . Peolple like him is the way to go

It's not what I said and not even mentionned Putin in my post. Why this obsession about Putin ??? I was speaking about other things but you constantly bring back Putin on the table ... and I was right you refuse understand what I said !!!

PW

First of all this is a thread about Russia Ukraine war so Puitin is a natural talking point

So you say I people like me dont understand what?

That everything is a chess game and there are no facts and nobody is better or worse than anybody else?

You keep sayinbg this . USA and erupreans have done a lot wrong but the last 100 years democracy in imo is superior to communism with Stalin or Mao or facism with Hitler yes.

Just as I think democratic nations now are much better than countries led by didcators where you can be put in jail for speaking your mind , no free press and no speration of power . Abd that starts a horrible war . The worst since WW2

But why do you have such strong opinions that USA is to blame for everything and Europe is useless but Putin is so great then if everything is just a game and nobody knows who does what?

Please eloborate on what you mean then thanks

What I think you mean in the postis that USA is to blame for this. If that is the case its not that I dont understand you but I dont agree with your concpiricy theory because its not a proven fact.

I think 90%+ of your members dont agree with you that USA is to blame for this war actually.

When Ukraine wanted to go in a more western way the were suddenly nazis. Russia in 2021 suddenly had large forces on the border . Russia said no they were not going to war but only had a millitary exercise. And they withdrew but left much more military equipment stay there than what is usually done after these kind of millitary training. Russia were going to invade Ukraine. Russia had calm the world down that they werenot invading. Does this sound like a nation that was under threat from Ukraine or the other way around?

I think we have to agree to disagree. If Im not spoken to I will stay out this shit thread

It's very difficult to have a discussion with anyone as you !!!
It's a bit same as trying explain Melenchon anything, he always think he is right in all he says and do.
How many times on this forum did you admit you could have been wrong about something ??? I haven't the feeling it happen once ... Why people the french press pretend to be "dictators" are neccessary really dictators toward their population ready for instance with Orban to reelect him 4 times ??? Why Macron who has OBLIGED the population to accept his law about age of retirement is less a dictator than Orban who cancel any law proposal once there are over 10 000 people going in the street against it ??? Where did you see 1200 building and few thousand cars burn in Hungary when the police does its job like few month ago in France ??? It's 100 times more peaceful in Hungary than France or Germany.
My friend Josh Cartu left europe before the war after taxes problems and started live in Russia. You know what he told me few weeks ago ?
That never the life in Russia has been so cool about prices of everything and time in Europe everybody pay more and more all in Russia is opposite. Only in pharmacy it's a bit complicate sometime to obtain some specific medications but on a general basis life is cheaper than before and life very peaceful. Foreigners as tourist are welcome, you put cashflow in Sberbank at arrival, they give you a local bank card immediately and you can use it as a Visa or Mastercard anywhere in the country.
But you know the best of the best ??? He his a super car collector and if you go on the net you will see what he does ...
So the very interesting ( shocking ? ) part of the actual situation is the fact he did not get delivered his Ferrari SF 90 because of the economic blocus of EU toward Russia but instead he got the newest Mc Laren delivered by boat on North of Russia
So yes Italy applicate the strict order of Brussels like good sheep time British does still money and business !!!
Yeah viva the blind little sheep of Europe united nation ready to jump from the precipice after following their leader !!!

So El Major you are wrong about me, you absolutely want see me has a dictators suporter, while I am just a man having travel all over the world, with eyes, ears , a good heart and I hope a normal brain able to not listen the press too much and accept the sad fact that what his presented to us as a dictature sometime is not and what is supposed be a democracy is a disguised dictatorship !!!

It's like on this forum, I think I am really cool with members and let them say a lot but when it goes to far and after various warning I close some guys account I am supposed be a dictator myself. Humans are often not able to be reasonnable and ready to kill each others for stupid reasons.
In my life I have often listened from various important people I had the chance to meet that when you have countries like China, India, Russia with so many different ethnies inside if you don't have an Iron hand to lead and control it then it's the chaos and everyone will try kill his neighboor !!! When you see what happen in France with only 1 problem of origine like we have ( North african and original french ) try imagine a country with 10, 20 or more variantes ... it's nightmare I think and will be a permanent fire if not a strong man in power.
Real freedom is a gift that most humans are unable to understand and appreciate at the proper value. Only after a big war or a long period under a true dictator like Franco or Pinochet the population feel it well and for a period the country is in peace after but step by step the situation always goes to the chaos again until one day one man comes and set up the situation with force. It has always been like that and will never change because of the world behavior ... and even the worst of the worst men like Khadafi or Hussein have never killed so more than 100 of their citizens by year while the "good" americans or europeans having "delivered" them brough wars, chaos and death everywhere and made 11 millions lives out in the last 25 years with a more unstable middle orient in countries like Lybia, Syria and Iraq where before everyone was living in peace !!!

PW

You know I could say the same about you right ?

You have not said you are wrong either . You like Orban and Putin. You shit on every other politican , USA and EU over and over. And you have repeated what you said over and over and the ones that dont agree with you dont understand anything. We have to agree to disagree.



Just one thing. Why do you also have to make false info here when trying to argue?

The USA 2003 war was based on a lie and ended horrible but Saddam did not kill 100 a year. He was a monster.

On March 16, 1988, as many as 5,000 Iraqi Kurds, mostly women and children, were killed when deadly gas was released on the northern town of Halabja by Saddam Hussein's forces.

But like I said will not agree om anything so I am out of the thread. All I ever wanted here was to support your work and not discuss politics. Most members wanted this thread closed.