PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 2:14 pm

C'est malheureusement fort possible mais son contraire aussi. De tout temps les guerres sont horribles et chaque camp cherche à manipuler l'opinion publique à son avantage.

C'est sans fin ...

PW

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 2:14 pm

. De tout temps les guerres sont horribles
PW

MVitaly5 wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 4:59 pm

To be honest, I'm getting tired of discussing this conflict, because I don't think we can have a constructive conversation here.
All people fall into four categories.
1). Who, support the position of Russia.
2). Who, support Ukraine and NATO. (I did not write NATO for nothing, because Russia is actually already at war with the entire NATO bloc, only without an official declaration of war. The Ukrainian army has no weapons of its own for a long time, and all military equipment is Western, and military instructors and mercenaries from NATO countries).
3). Who maintain a neutral position and try to understand the situation analytically.
4). Who don't give a shit about this at all, and more and more of them, because their personal lives are rapidly deteriorating.

And most importantly, there is so much manipulation and lies of public opinion in this conflict that people who have no real contact with the people directly in charge of making decisions have absolutely no adequate information.

You see, it's useless to answer anything, much less prove anything to people like Jean. He watched his TV set and everything is already "clear" to him. He refers to the human rights organization "AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL". And who controls and funds this organization, he wondered? Can we believe it or should this information at least be verified? The same organization, apparently by accident))), wrote an article about the Ukrainian army, so they were forced to almost apologize for it. And they started making excuses for it. Here it is.

https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releas ... -areas-new

I have a lot of military friends and war correspondents, and even I don't fully know the situation on the fronts, much less the plans of the general staff of Russia or Ukraine. For Ukraine it is clear, western curators decide everything for them.

In this regard, I will tell you my subjective view of the situation at the moment.

On the Russian side, there is a military grouping of about 170,000 soldiers and officers on the Ukrainian fronts. Plus about 30,000 Rosgvardia personnel who are ensuring order in the liberated territories. Plus 30000-50000 soldiers of the DNR and LNR people's militia.

The Ukrainian army has already had four waves of mobilization since the start of the conflict. Also thousands of international mercenaries are fighting. There are also many NATO instructors fighting. At the moment, all the equipment that belonged to the Ukrainian army at the beginning of the conflict has long been destroyed and they are fighting with weapons constantly provided to them by NATO countries. By this their number, as well as losses are already difficult even to measure!!!!

The Ukrainian front is over 2,000 kilometers long!!!

Since September 06, 2022, there have been very intense events on the fronts.
Zelensky, his Western curators, were constantly pushing for more decisive action to continue to help him. Until September 06, the Ukrainian army was only defensive, but since September 06, they have been launching a series of counterattacks in different parts of the front. To do this they used their main, select and last reserve, which had been forming all along in Western Ukraine. On the Kherson direction they suffered a crushing defeat. Several attacks to seize the Zaporizhzhia NPP, were unsuccessful. With the help of U.S. intelligence they managed to find a weak spot in the deployment of Russian troops in the Kharkov region. Yes, they were able to capture several settlements in Kharkov Oblast: Balakleya, Izyum, Kupyansk. But at what cost? Their losses during these days, in different parts of the front, number in the thousands. (according to various estimates 12000-15000 killed and wounded)!
They reported an imaginary "victory" and were supported by all the Western media, and at the same time in the Transcarpathian regions of Ukraine, a three-day mourning period was declared, for colossal losses. To attack is not to defend! And the Ukrainian army is dragging itself into a trap.

The Belgorod region of Russia, received tens of thousands of refugees from these territories when the Ukrainian army attacked. And those who did not want to leave, hoping they would be safe, were sadly mistaken. Now the Ukrainian Nazis have started terrorizing these cities.

In fact, Zelensky and his junta and Western allies have achieved only that Russia has decided to reconsider the intensity and level of its actions in Ukraine. People in Russia have become even more aggressive in demanding harsher actions from the Russian leadership. Everybody is fed up with Russia fighting at 15-20% of its capacity and being too sparing in Ukraine.

In Ukraine, Russia has begun striking critical infrastructure and using strategic aviation. In recent days, several power plants have been hit. If this continues, U.S. satellites could fall, NATO facilities could be hit, and the military conflict would rise to a new international level.

But most importantly, this coming winter!!!
Let's see how this winter, Europe, USA and Ukraine survive. Let's see how Zelensky will receive Western delegations in pitch darkness.

This conflict will have more of an economic effect, not even a military one!