RUSSIA - UKRAINE 2022 CONFLICT

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MVitaly5 wrote:
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I ask the moderator, or forum administrator, to delete my posts that are irrelevant to the topic of this forum thread.
revising the history? fitting

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To be honest, Vitaly is not Vatnik, he is a propagandist and is here to make Vatnik as many people as possible. This is the goal of any propaganda - to replace your thoughts with a ready-made opinion. This is how most of russian people lives - in shit, but they manage to be proud of it. And russia tries to drown in this shit everyone it can reach. Now Ukraine is nearby, then maybe Poland, Finland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia. The fantasies of imperialism are boundless.

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I never thought that I would write about peolitics on a porn resource))). I have lived in Ukraine for 37 years. I am half Ukrainian, I know its language, culture and history of both Russia and Ukraine. I've watched a bunch of political shows, expert commentary, etc. This is my topic, I've invested a lot of time - you can say it's my hobby.
It seems Pierre mentioned Oliver Stone, both are great, one is that he wrote a good book, the second because he read it.
In Europe, they do not want to show the anger of those journalists who were in the Donbass and know the situation from the inside. For example, Mark Franchetti I saw a Ukrainian TV show where he was a guest, when he started talking, what he saw with his own eyes in the Donbass, he just was no longer allowed to speak,
he was very surprised and shocked by this reaction. if it was a Ukrainian journalist, he would simply be killed or, at best, imprisoned. Patrick Lancaster and Graeme Phillips also know about the insides, also Adrien Bocquet interview.
The quotation: “Let me control the media and I will turn any nation into a herd of pigs” to Joseph Goebbels. Ukraine has done well in this. When the Ukrainian news shows a story about a Ukrainian pilot who allegedly shot down 40 new Russian aircraft on his old plane and shows a video from the DKS game as confirmation, normal people laugh, but some still manage to write in the comments that they themselves saw this air battle, because they say they live nearby. where do they idiots live in dks simulator?
Even before the war, every issue of Ukrainian news talked about the insidious Putin, it even went so far that he was blamed for the poverty of Ukrainians, and even for bad weather. Russian TV channels were banned, also Zelensky closed all 5 opposition channels and there are no more channels calling for peace. Moreover, he closed it personally without legal procedure, he simply closed it as if it were his own channels. Here is such a Ukrainian democracy. Zelensky is often called a deceiver because he deceived the voter, promised peace and brought war. He is not a deceiver, but a coward, because he was afraid of the Nazis and could not cut off the oxygen of the war party. Zelensky is not Charles Gaulle remember Algeria, Zelensky is a pawn .If he tries to resolve this difficult issue peacefully, they will kill him, I understood this at the beginning of the war.
it takes some time for the Nazis to realize that it will get worse.
sum up
Ukraine is a totalitarian sect with external attributes of democracy, extremely militarized. Of course, Russia will not allow such a state to exist in the neighborhood. There will be an average option, remember the war in Yemen, when a large state attacked a small one, Russia will not be able to capture the whole of Ukraine, it will capture 6-8 regions, negotiations will begin. They will sign an agreement, and then accusation of betrayal and a new revolution in Ukraine, where the Nazis come to power and a new war begins. I also think that Poland will take three or four regions.

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mudilo wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 1:43 pm
Zelensky closed all 5 opposition channels
What are the names of these channels? i would like to look it up.... thx

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Hilarious to hear the Putinbots say this, when it's the Kremlin that needs to be denazified, and Russia demilitarised.
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mudilo wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 1:43 pm
I never thought that I would write about peolitics on a porn resource))). I have lived in Ukraine for 37 years. I am half Ukrainian, I know its language
Seriuosly? It can be other way? Can you imagine someone says "I live in France, I'm half French and I know its language." For me its impossible to live so long in any country and don't know its language. You can speak on your native language, its your choice, but you MUST know language of your country!
mudilo wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 1:43 pm
When the Ukrainian news shows a story about a Ukrainian pilot who allegedly shot down 40 new Russian aircraft on his old plane and shows a video from the DKS game as confirmation, normal people laugh, but some still manage to write in the comments that they themselves saw this air battle, because they say they live nearby. where do they idiots live in dks simulator?
I also read about this pilot, though there seemed to be about 17 downed planes, I think this is all to increase the morale of the army and for the confidence of the population. Now, if later this pilot is awarded with the wording "For 40 downed aircraft" a state award, then it will be ridiculous
mudilo wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 1:43 pm
Even before the war, every issue of Ukrainian news talked about the insidious Putin
can you clarify, meaning they scolded Putin before the 2014 invasion of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions and the annexation of Crimea? Because if after that, then in my opinion a completely understandable reaction
mudilo wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 1:43 pm
Ukraine is a totalitarian sect with external attributes of democracy, extremely militarized. Of course, Russia will not allow such a state to exist in the neighborhood. There will be an average option, remember the war in Yemen, when a large state attacked a small one, Russia will not be able to capture the whole of Ukraine, it will capture 6-8 regions, negotiations will begin. They will sign an agreement, and then accusation of betrayal and a new revolution in Ukraine, where the Nazis come to power and a new war begins. I also think that Poland will take three or four regions.
it is incorrect to compare the internal conflict in Yemen with the attack of one independent state on another.
In your opinion who is Nazis in Ukraine, who may come to power? What they did or planned to do so you call them Nazis? May be you know it better as you lived there 37 years.

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pierro wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 9:20 pm
Seriuosly? It can be other way? Can you imagine someone says "I live in France, I'm half French and I know its language." For me its impossible to live so long in any country and don't know its language. You can speak on your native language, its your choice, but you MUST know language of your country!
It's obvious that you don't know shit about Ukraine!
In Ukraine, more than 50% of the population consider Russian their native and primary language. And the Ukrainian language has been forcibly imposed on them in recent years. More than 80% of Ukrainians are fluent in Russian. And on the contrary, more than 30% did not even want to study the Ukrainian language, it was forcibly imposed on them, through the eradication of Russian-language communication in schools, administrative institutions, etc. If it were not for the Soviet regime, the Ukrainian language would still be spread only in small farmsteads of the Western and Southern territory of modern Ukraine. The forcible eradication of the Russian language and discrimination against the Russian-speaking population by the Ukrainian power regime was one of Russia's main grievances.
Learn the material part of the question.
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Fri May 13, 2022 9:20 pm
I also read about this pilot, though there seemed to be about 17 downed planes, I think this is all to increase the morale of the army and for the confidence of the population. Now, if later this pilot is awarded with the wording "For 40 downed aircraft" a state award, then it will be ridiculous
They'll give that pilot a Fantomorden. They're all fantasists now, it's no wonder when the President is a Comedian!
pierro wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 9:20 pm
can you clarify, meaning they scolded Putin before the 2014 invasion of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions and the annexation of Crimea? Because if after that, then in my opinion a completely understandable reaction
There was no regular Russian army in Dombassa in 2014 or afterwards. If it had been there, there would have been no war in Dombass. Why did the Ukrainian army attack only Dombass, and why not Crimea? An elementary question for your logical thinking. Right, because the Russian Army was in the Crimea, and you could get fucked there.
pierro wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 9:20 pm
it is incorrect to compare the internal conflict in Yemen with the attack of one independent state on another.
In your opinion who is Nazis in Ukraine, who may come to power? What they did or planned to do so you call them Nazis? May be you know it better as you lived there 37 years.
Read in detail the entire thread of this topic. It has already been proven many times here that Nazism flourished in Ukraine. Stop asking the same questions, littering the forum thread.

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Apollo13 wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 3:06 pm
What are the names of these channels? i would like to look it up.... thx
Zelensky shut down 7 TV channels!!! And no one counted how many media resources in general. In a word practically all of them!

1. "UkrLive"
2. "Первый независимый"
3. "112 "
4. "NewsOne "
5. "ZIK"
6. "Пятый"
7. "Прямой"

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