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Pornstars who are also working beside as an escort

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I would like to know Pierre’s opinion (or others if they have some experiences), about this topic. How much is known in the industry about girls who work beside as an escort? I suppose most of them keep it as a secret if they do it. I guess some producers wouldn’t like it und therefore it could be bad for their porn career, but how much is known about it?

I’m asking this because I few months ago I visited a website of a Czech escort agency after I received regularly newsletters from this agency. When I visited their website I saw that you can only have access to the photos and girls after registration as a member, which of course was free. After registration I checked the 20-30 girls of this agency and discovered 4-5 Czech girls that are also working as pornstars, 3 of them are also on Pierre’s website and 1 of them is very popular. The girls don’t use their pornstar names and it is not mentioned on the website that they are pornstars. So I became curious and doubtful and contacted the agency. I wanted to know who will really show up after booking this girls, I expected someone who looks like them. But the agency confirmed that they are the mentioned pornstars and they guaranteed that exactly this pornstar will show up after booking, otherwise I could send her back without paying. They said that I only have to organize the e-ticket for the flight to the destination I want her and send the e-number of the ticket to them. To organize the e-ticket they would give me the real name and birthday of the girl. The cash for the meeting I have to give the girl when I meet her, no payment in advance is necessary. In one case they sendt me the name and birthday and after checking it on the internet I found out that indeed that was the real Czech name of the girl. Interestingly in the casting video when Pierre asked her about her name she answered exactly with this Czech name and not with her pornstar name. Therefore I must suppose that really that pornstar will show up. I don’t see any point what they could do with an e-ticket addressed on a pornstars name when it’s not for her. What else could they do with it and what is the point of sending someone else if the client refuses the girl because it is someone else?

I asked myself why would a girl do this If she’s already successful as a pornstar. Well, the rates are fairly high. A 24 hours meeting is about 1’500 to 1’700 Euros, a lot for Czech standards. I know from agencies in Germany that the agency keeps 30-40% of the money, the rest goes to the girl. That’s 1’000 Euros just for a 24 hours meeting with a client. Fairly much for Czech standards. I don’t know how much they get for a porn shooting but I guess the payment is lower and therefore I can see the motivation for doing this. Even if it’s just one or two times per month it is still good money.

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Very interesting story... i guess u wont share the names of those girls? :oops:

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randomguy wrote:Very interesting story... i guess u wont share the names of those girls? :oops:
No because that wouldn't be fair since I can only assume that they do it but not confirm it since I haven't done a booking so far. And even after a meeting it wouldn't be fair to the girl to go public when they want to keept is as a "secret". On the website they use other names and they are not even advertised as pornstars, only if you ask the agency they confirm it.

My question is more in general, how much is known about this, how many girls do this beside and how is the industry thinking about this. Is it tolerated or not by producers for example and can you make more money as a good escort than as a pornstar.

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"Quand on danse avec le diable, c'est toujours lui qui l'emporte...." :!:
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I think it's getting more and more popular, pornbiz is generating less money and obviously girls are getting less money which leads them to find other ways of profit.... one of them are webcams, which i think is one of the only thing nowadays that keeps people to pay for something in internet (since u cant hack it and put it online like regular video) and the other is escorting, which is just an elegant name for prostituion.

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To be more serious....
How much is known in the industry about girls who work beside as an escort?
Some.... ;)
I guess some producers wouldn’t like it
I don't believe they do not know about it. Even if some producers don't personnaly like it, it's not a new story, that's life, and I dont believe the girl keeps it secret just for the producers's opinion... :lol:
What else could they do with it and what is the point of sending someone else if the client refuses the girl because it is someone else?
Don't worry, the good girl should really show up ;)

Me, I just don't understand how some bad trip don't not happen more often in such unsecure conditions.... Send a girl to Hannibal Lecter, just to try... :roll:
I asked myself why would a girl do this If she’s already successful as a pornstar
Always more money, and you know, sex on a porn shooting is very different. Not the bad trips of prostitution, but, more hard work I think, taking the poses, cleaning the asshole, making the anal as long as the film needs it... etc...
When you're a prostitute, you're the master, even if you fullfill your client's desires, you stay the master, you can stop him, don't allow many things. When you shoot porn, it's very different.
You think even the AVN's Best Anal Girl, will do so many Ass to mouth with a client than for a gonzo... Don't dream....

So I believe that the escort service, even if not so good for the soul (that you can suffer later), is better on the immediate action, the man can be soft, sweet, cum quickly, even if 24h escort, it's much time speaking, sleeping, etc.... Than on porn, moreover if very hard set....

And more... little bitches that have new boyfriend.... MUST show they are good... accept lesbian only for shooting... exciting for boyfriend.... and when he is away, making the escort with some rich guy.... Everywhere the human soul is the same shit! :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

What I also saw last night in a private sex action, oh fuck, people don't know what is love anymore :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:




To resume, I think boy you wonder too many questions ;) Just enjoy life and enjoy your favourite pornstar if she does it and if you have the cash to burn for her pussy ;) Life is too short, maybe have fun if this is your stuff :oops:
Is it good, is it bad?
Nothing is white, nothing is black, everything is grey.... :(

For me, personnally, not my stuff to look especially for pornstars as escort, there are many sweet "casual girls" for cheaper, and I believe, better experience... for sure more authentic experience.... ;)

In my opinion, just the best thing with a pornstar you like is to become best friend... this has more value than all the sex you can do with her :oops:
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I don't like this subject but ...
It's true that because the porn is going down by the fault of piracy, the prostitution is going up and actually the new "fashion" but ...
Also agencies doing escort promote the girls via internet and we are again facing the same problem that with porno excepted that people don't see them with a dick in the ass in DP !!!
But about money, the price are very low and the quantity of men you need by day to get the salary of porn is still huge. This gives stigmate for ever !!!

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PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: But about money, the price are very low and the quantity of men you need by day to get the salary of porn is still huge. This gives stigmate for ever !!!

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Salut Pierre! Merci pour ta reponse mais je ne suis pas sure si je t'ai bien compris. Est-ce que tu veux dire que dans le porno business les possibilites de gagner de l'argent sont mieux que dans l'escort? Dans le cas que moi j'ai susmentionne je pense que les femmes recoivent pour en rendez-vous de 24 heures au minimum 1000 euros des 1500-1700 euros que le client doit payer et ca c'est tres bon. Je ne sais pas combien elles recoivent pour un shooting de porno mais je presume que la majorite des femmes recoivent moins et le boulot est plus dure que dans l'escort. D'autre part dans l'escort les femmes doivent parler au moins anglais et je crois ca c'est un probleme pour la majorite. Corrige-moi si je me trompe, mais je presume que le paiement dans l'escort business est mieux que dans le porno business.

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ça dépend aussi des nénéttes: j'avais discuté avec une hongroise qui me disait faire du porn uniquement pour garder un statut de star du X et demander plus aux michetons.

Donc cette nénétte (je ne dirais pas qui c'est) se démerde à faire une scène de temps en temps l'histoire de pas tomber aux oubliettes, et le reste du temps c'est Dubaï , la Grèce et tout cette merde à gogo.... Enfin, si tout ça, ça sert à respirer les 3/4 des revenus en poudre blanche qui fait rire, c'est vraiment crétin! :roll:

J'avais aussi entendu celà dans nos contrée bleu blanc rouge mais là chut faut pas charrier :D

Tout ça pour dire, que je pense que ça dépend des filles, le X c'est dur quand même, faut être un bon modèle, encaisser le sex, la patience sur la durée des tournages, mais en même temps psychologiquement tu te prostitues pas; à l'inverse l'escort c'est surement moins dur sur le coup, tu n'as pas à gaper ou à faire des gang-bangs certes, tu maîtrises la situation et tu restes aux commandes, mais là tu encaisses méchamment sur le plan psychologique. Et parfois tu tombes sur des lourds... :(

Alors surement que selon le vécu et le caractère de chacune, ça part dans un sens ou dans l'autre ____ voir dans les deux :mrgreen:
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Une fille prend entre 100 et 300 euros par client mais reverse la moitié à son agence ( mac ? ) et paye aussi sa chambre d'hotel !
Donc pour être plus précis elle travaille pendant 8 à 12 heures pour garder en poche 500 à 800 euros ! Mais avec 5 à 10 hommes sur le dos selon configuration.
Pour certaine c'est pas trop dur mais pour d'autre ça devient vite l'enfer au bout de quelques jours et si les rendez vous ont été pris, elle n'ont pas le droit de dire NON !

Donc là ça devient vraiment pas beau du tout ... sans compter les agressions physiques dont elles sont régulièrement victimes aussi !!!
Dans le porno, tout n'est pas rose non plus mais l'atmosphère est sécurisée, tout le monde se connait et ça dure 30 mn voir une heure et bye bye la compagnie ... mais c'est visuellement plus problématique, c'est vrai !

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