PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:Poor boy you are, a pimp stole the money from the girl, me I give them a lot of money to do DP etc with my team. It's not the same a all. You're just a prick ...

PW

According to Wikipedia Pimp means

"A pimp is an agent for prostitutes who collects a portion of their earnings. The pimp may receive this money in return for advertising services, physical protection, or for providing (or in some cases monopolizing) a location where she may engage clients."

According to dictionary Pimp Means

"To serve as a procurer of prostitutes."

so you are a pimp...

No because if you was less stupid you will understand it's not what I'm doing !

"A pimp is an agent for prostitutes who collects a portion of their earnings.

I'm not an agent and I GIVE THEM MONEY FOR WHAT THEY DO, so I'm more a client than an agent, because also I reverse purcentage to the agencies, so in fact I'm twice giving money !!!

The pimp may receive this money in return for advertising services, physical protection, or for providing (or in some cases monopolizing) a location where she may engage clients."

Same for the advertising because it's me who promote their image, and I do not protect any girl, and I don't paid the rent of their appartment !!!

Morality, it's sad to see when some people have so much frustration and hate inside their heart, as you do, they become blind to the point they don't even know to read properly !!!

PW

tunfan87 if Rebecca is the only one you liked because she was a nice, sweet girl and you do not care about the other girls why so much aggression?. You remind me of religous fanatics who get angry at people for not sharing the same beliefs as them.

There is a huge difference between what pimps do and what is going on at these castings. I am sure like I said before there are some levels of manipulation when getting the girls to go there as some may feel they are going to genuine runway castings, but beyond that it all becomes about choice. They are then paid handsomely to work for the production company. Using morals and personal opinion for your argument is silly because these have changed throughout history. Be glad they get paid there was a time when those in power could just take any woman they wanted and have sex with her for free. Morals are an individual thing based on your personal sence of values its ironic everyone gets so angry about people having sex yet we all enjoy and have to have sex for our species to continue. You do realise that the restrictions to free sex came in place from those in power as they feared that is the population grew to much they would not be able to control people?. This includes the church too, after that and because we had no anti biotics people fell ill easily due to STDs so the message was that sex was terrible and should only be done to reproduce. This is the basis of most "moral" sexual beliefs today. Even Jesus if you are a Christian was friendly with prostitutes and that was over 2100 years ago way before Pierre Woodman was born.

Try and have these discussions without getting angry and aggressive and maybe we can understand you better. What is your exact problem with Pierre and why do you feel that way?. How do you suggest this problem is resolved without you imposing your will on another man?. Pierre procures women for porno films, Mcdonalds sells fatty foods. Pierre has had sex with 4 000 women. Today more than 40 000 people will die due to illnesses related to consumption of bad fatty foods. I have never seen an actress being killed on set. How come you are not on the Mcdonalds forum or the Tobacco forum?. Some times people need to get off their high horse and pick battles wisely. Why are you not outside telling mothers not to feed their children so many sweets as more children are gettiing heart problems every year?. These are problems, drugs, crime, unemployment, alcholism, obesity. These are issues that need addressing. Not someone who is actually one of the honest guys in an industry where the other options are human trafficing, forced prostitution, rape and being beaten up by pimps.

Please think in perspective and I am not even a supporter of Pierre to the extent that I defend him because of that. I just do not see what your argument is based on rather than something personal. While you are complaining write an email to Obama as he is sending more children to Iraq and Afanistan to die. I am sure you would rather your daughter blow up after stepping on a road side bomb than had Bob Terminators dick in her ass. But thats the thing with you "moral" types.

didactic wrote:tunfan87 if Rebecca is the only one you liked because she was a nice, sweet girl and you do not care about the other girls why so much aggression?. You remind me of religous fanatics who get angry at people for not sharing the same beliefs as them.

There is a huge difference between what pimps do and what is going on at these castings. I am sure like I said before there are some levels of manipulation when getting the girls to go there as some may feel they are going to genuine runway castings, but beyond that it all becomes about choice. They are then paid handsomely to work for the production company. Using morals and personal opinion for your argument is silly because these have changed throughout history. Be glad they get paid there was a time when those in power could just take any woman they wanted and have sex with her for free. Morals are an individual thing based on your personal sence of values its ironic everyone gets so angry about people having sex yet we all enjoy and have to have sex for our species to continue. You do realise that the restrictions to free sex came in place from those in power as they feared that is the population grew to much they would not be able to control people?. This includes the church too, after that and because we had no anti biotics people fell ill easily due to STDs so the message was that sex was terrible and should only be done to reproduce. This is the basis of most "moral" sexual beliefs today. Even Jesus if you are a Christian was friendly with prostitutes and that was over 2100 years ago way before Pierre Woodman was born.

Try and have these discussions without getting angry and aggressive and maybe we can understand you better. What is your exact problem with Pierre and why do you feel that way?. How do you suggest this problem is resolved without you imposing your will on another man?. Pierre procures women for porno films, Mcdonalds sells fatty foods. Pierre has had sex with 4 000 women. Today more than 40 000 people will die due to illnesses related to consumption of bad fatty foods. I have never seen an actress being killed on set. How come you are not on the Mcdonalds forum or the Tobacco forum?. Some times people need to get off their high horse and pick battles wisely. Why are you not outside telling mothers not to feed their children so many sweets as more children are gettiing heart problems every year?. These are problems, drugs, crime, unemployment, alcholism, obesity. These are issues that need addressing. Not someone who is actually one of the honest guys in an industry where the other options are human trafficing, forced prostitution, rape and being beaten up by pimps.

Please think in perspective and I am not even a supporter of Pierre to the extent that I defend him because of that. I just do not see what your argument is based on rather than something personal. While you are complaining write an email to Obama as he is sending more children to Iraq and Afanistan to die. I am sure you would rather your daughter blow up after stepping on a road side bomb than had Bob Terminators dick in her ass. But thats the thing with you "moral" types.

RELIGION - CAN ANYONE SUGGEST WHAT IS THE MEANING OF THIS TERM...
AS I NEVER UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF RELIGION SO I AM NOT A GREAT FOLLOWER OF ANY RELIGION..FOR ME THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD ..NO JESUS, NO ALLA, NO OTHER GOD...SIMPLY ONE GOD...

ANY THE WHOLE POINT I AM WRITING HERE BECAUSE I AM A YOUTH..AS A YOUNG MAN IT'S MY RESPONSIBILITY TO STOP BAD THING AROUND ME..

AND I HONESTLY THINK A TEEN AGE PERSON NEVER HAVE ANY IDEA OF HIS FUTURE..AS ALL IN THE CASTING MR WOODMAN IS SIMPLY MANIPULATE TEENAGE GIRLS..ONCE HE GOT IT AND SHOW THE GIRLS SOME MONEY I BET EVERY GIRL WANT TO DO PORN FOR THE SAKE OF MONEY...

I AM NOT ANGRY OR JEALOUS BUT I AM DISAPPOINTED BY THE DECISION OF TEEN AGE GIRLS...AND THAT HURT WHEN YOU SEE SOMEBODY IS GOING DOWN AND YOU CANT DO ANYTHING ...SO I WRITE HERE...MAY BE SOME OF GIRL THINK TWICE BEFORE STEEPING INTO PORN...

ACCORDING TO YOU WHICH ONE YOU PREFER

"SOME MONEY IN WRONG WAY AND DITCHING YOUR PARENTS FOR MONEY" OR "YOUR PARENTS WHO TOOK CARE OF YOU "

THEIR IS A OLD SAYING ABOUT MONEY"EASY COMING EASY GOING"....
I THINK WHEN A GIRL CHOOSE TO DO PORN SHE ALSO BROKE MANY RELATION WHICH ARE REALLY COUNT....FOR ME MY PARENTS AND FRIENDS ARE MORE IMPORTED THEY SOME MONEY...

SO THATS MY PROBLEM....WHY WE SIMPLY ENJOYING WHAT HE DO AND WHY DONT WE THINK ABOUT THE GIRLS...I READ A LOT OF FORUM, INTERVIEW , DOCUMENTARY BUT NO WHERE I ABLE TO FIND ANY KIND OF HAPPY AND MEANINGFUL RELATION PF PORNSTARS...SOME OF THEM JUST CANT GO BACK BECAUSE THEY ALREADY IN DEEP GUTTER..SO THEY DO DRUG ETC..NO ONE TO CARE FOR THEM...THE CLOSEST THEY ARE IN CONTACT IS EITHER A PORNSTAR OR THEIR AGENT ..SO SIMPLY THEY DONT HAVE A NORMAL LIFE...

SO MY QUESTION IS " IS IT REALLY WORTH TO RISK EVERYTHING FOR THE SAKE OF MONEY?????????"

You know my father always told me " money is not so important " !!!
But I think it was because we were very poor but now that I know the difference between having NO MONEY and HAVING MONEY , let me tell you it's an important difference that you can understand only if you have the chance to be richer than you was at the begining of your life !
Money is a neccessity to survive but also something who give you the chance to do thousands of things impossible without ! I've been in most of the place of the world, because of the money and just this is one of the most important thing on earth I think, to get the chance to see the world !!!
And my money comes because I take my pants off and use my dick as some girls also use their body to do money !!! What is bad ? Do we do something who hurt anyone ?
For sure not but some people like you want to said the opposite ! You can't said anything against us, we are free to do what we want and you have no power on us and you're just alone and sad when we just enjoy our lifes !!!

PW

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:You know my father always told me " money is not so important " !!!
But I think it was because we were very poor but now that I know the difference between having NO MONEY and HAVING MONEY , let me tell you it's an important difference that you can understand only if you have the chance to be richer than you was at the begining of your life !
Money is a neccessity to survive but also something who give you the chance to do thousands of things impossible without ! I've been in most of the place of the world, because of the money and just this is one of the most important thing on earth I think, to get the chance to see the world !!!
And my money comes because I take my pants off and use my dick as some girls also use their body to do money !!! What is bad ? Do we do something who hurt anyone ?
For sure not but some people like you want to said the opposite ! You can't said anything against us, we are free to do what we want and you have no power on us and you're just alone and sad when we just enjoy our lifes !!!

PW

SO YOU ARE ADMITTING THAT YOU ARE A SELFISH BASTARD WHO SIMPLY DESTROYING SOME BODY FUTURE FOR HIS OWN SHAKE....YEAH MONEY IS IMPORTED BUT IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT HOW YOU EARN IT...I THINK OUT OF 100 PEOPLE ONLY 10 WOULD BE AGREE WITH YOU...WHEN SOMEBODY KILLING SOMEBODY HE IS ONLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM ,, BUT IN YOUR CASE AND FOR YOUR PROFIT YOU ARE KILLING SEVERAL HOPE AND FUTURE....IS IT GOOD AND WHO IS REAL CRIMINAL????? YES YOU MAY NOT HURT SOMEBODY PHYSICALLY BUT YOU ARE DIRECTLY HURTING THEIR FUTURE AND THEIR RELATIONS...

YES WHO AM I????
I AM RESPONSIBLE YOUNG MAN WHO DARE TO SAY TRUTH... TRUTH ALWAYS HURT AND IT ALSO SHOW PATH TO OTHER....AM I CLEAR??????

I also think the same way, this is the correct philosophy, just do not do any harm to anyone is to be at peace with conscience

Yes maybe but porn is an entertainment for adult where adult have the main roles !
if people arrive on this forum it's just because they watch porn so I don't care what they think about me and they can continued to tell anything they want about me, I will continued my work to make my fans happy !!!

PW

arnoldsty wrote:Atisz, you seem like a good intentioned guy (or girl, don't know!!). You have empathy, something which a number of porn fans don't have. They enjoy the scenes but look down on the girl doing it. That is being a hypocrite.

I agree with you that for some girls, doing porn must be a regretful decision. Now the question is what can be done for them? Do you have a concrete plan of action for them?

Don't just say stop watching porn. Anti-porn people have been saying that for years and it has not made much difference. If you want to stop new girls from doing porn or resuce the current performers, what are you doing about it.

I am not being sarcastic. I am asking because if you are really against this then you should be doing more.

Apparently I've forgotten to answer to your comment - sorry about that.
Thank you for your kind words - I don't look them down indeed, maybe just a little as I feel sorry about their naivety.
I'm not saying that anyone should stop watching porn - who am I to tell you or anyone what to do with their free time? It's the exploitation business I disagree with, the delusions, the false promises, the ruining of other people's lives.
Btw, I might be doing something against all this - I'm posting my opinions on this forum. Don't you think that's something?

About pimps:

We live in a swift and ever-changing world and the classic meaning of the term "pimp" had also changed. Today some tend to call themselves agents, just like prostitutes call themselves escorts.
The common thing is exploitation.

Plus, I believe if you draw on the service of pimps, you become a pimp yourself as well indirectly.