didactic wrote:What of the girls who are just greedy is that the pornographers fault too?. You seem to have a view of women as victims and men as their oppressors. Yet I dont see men being paid thousands of euros to have sex.

the disturbing thing about what Pierre does, is that at some point, if you take a good look at it, you can really feel that those girls are lost, or desperatly in need of money, or fame or glory or even all of that. Being the professional he is, Pierre know within a second if a girl can become a porn star or will just remain a one shot thing.
there's something wrong about using the poverty, the despair, the illusion to have sex with someone, and then make money over it.
Pierre can hardly try to convinced himself he's a good man, helping poor girls to pay their studies, the truth is he is not.

Once again, proove me wrong.
If money is not the key-thing, why he's not making business in France, Germany or England ? Just plain and simple why ??
The average income in Romania is somewhere around 350 € a FUCKING MONTH.
Where's the glory to offer a innocent girl 1500 to 3000 € to fuck her ass up ?

Always better than suck her boss in order to keep her job !!!

PW

yeah, better than a bullet in the head too.
always look on the bright side of life.

One last question, frequently asked i'm sure, but i'd like to hear you on this,
10 years ahead from now, how would you like your own daughter been "casted" by a
guy like you ?

CIAO.....

CHE PALLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Alle ragazze piaceeeeeeeeeeeeeeee avete capitooooooooooooooooooooooo
è smettetela, basta,fatela finita bacchettoni perbenisti
anche le ragazze si vogliono divertire"io con Pierre anche gratis"

Ma che ce di male? anche noi abbiamo desideri irrefrenabili
Detto questo non mi sembra di essere una cattiva ragazza

No parlo Italiano !

Non parlo inglese!

Atisz and drelladesign you are providing valid points but you are still not grasping the point I am making. The world is exploitative by nature fairness of life is an illusion. I know how hard things are in East Europe but I also know how hard things are in Africa, America and Asia. There are thousands of porn stars in America where the standard of living is one of the best in the world. There are thousands scattered in other European countries too if we use the definition "porn star" or just say women willing to have sex for money. It is not as simple as because they are Eastern European. These women are generally more attractive and well taken care of even in the poverty they come from as compared to American, English, French or German girls. Look at a girl like Anetta Keys born in America she would have been an athletes wife or maybe even a model but she was born in a Czech village. Again life is not fair but that is simply how it is.

Not everyone has to own a "Hello Kitty" bag or a "Gucci" one regardless of age and it is not pornographers turning teenagers into materialistic beings blame that on advertising, MTV and television in general which says you are nothing unless you have this design on your back. All Pierre does is take advantage of that but the seed has been planted by someone else. Yes 18 is a young age and they are easy to manipulate but soldiers are signed up and sent to die in useless wars at the same age. What would you rather have you daughter being fucked on tape or see her dead blown to pieces by a road side bomb in Afganistan?. The would you want to see your daughter on tape argument is stupid because the answer is simply, no. He is doing this so his daughter does not have to do that. Does the factory owner want to see his daughters hands bleed while she works there 12 hrs a day?. Do the share holders of Nike/Reebok want their children working in hot, humid conditions like the Indian/Chinese children making their products?. Understand this is a business and for any business he needs a product (the girls) and a market (the fans).

Males do not get a higher salary it is up to 10 times less than the new girls. The glory in offering these girls that money is that they can do more than their lives would offer. Some support their entire families, others blow it on designer clothes. The choice is theirs noone can live life for another. You say the average salary in East Europe is so little my ex girlfriend her father was a cook, she started as a cleaner in a hotel while she studied now she is regional manager for one of the biggest hotel groups in the world. She is not even 30 yet, her friends fucked rich men and some married them and they are unhappy and miserable with no lives. All are East European, did my ex fuck her way to the top?. Maybe but she was smart about it and planned her life now she is in a good place financially. Men we are stupid if a woman is pretty and smart she can milk the porn game for serious money have a website and retire to a good life. Look at Sandyhttp://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/sandy_2.html, I will not use American starlets because it is a different market. But with the right mentality a woman can become very wealthy in this business. Atisz said that a woman who has fucked 1000 dicks is called a slut, look at Hollywood your famous stars have taken more dicks than you can imagine also not everyone thinks like that, some men want women who fuck/fucked many men. Some even encourage them to carry on doing so.

So that said all your arguments are moral ones and you cannot impose your moral values on others because everyone has free will. Everyone has different morals. Everyone also has regrets in life and that is what makes life great we live and we learn. Like I asked before both of you guys sound educated and intelligent what alternatives would you offer these women?. Being a sugar baby where an old man controls them?. Being an escort?. What other ways can they rise up if they do not want the slow path of school and hard work?.

didactic

i applaud you for your wise words and especially how you can articulate yourself; unfortunatley english is not my mother tongue and so its more difficult for me.
still i want to add some points: regarding the materialistic lifestyle, you forgot to mention the important role of parents! one can not always blame the environment and circumstances or Pierre for actions of these girls! i know that people like Atisz focus on the government and society to change things. its like the mentality of socialism and communsim: take responsibility from the people to the state and then form them like you want. (i've mentioned this in my former post but dont want to get too political).
its naive to assume that all these girls would have become doctors and lawyers had not evil Pierre snatched them away into his porn hell. probably one should clearly state that ultimately, it seems to me, most people get what they deserve on this world. i know it sounds hard but i kinda believe in that. Pierre and his girls live in a symbiose, its not a one way street and its not only one side who is evil, like Atisz and his peers want to make it look. life is more complex like the black-white schema which they want us to believe. and yes, this life is about learning and hopefully we will all learn more as time progresses.

This discution is sterile !
First of all because some people here are just focus to be against me and doesn't want accept the possibility a girl can do porn and get a positive result from that, they think it's just a question of poor people etc... and second don't even take care to find on this forum what I already told about my daughter if she was trying to do porn one day, and third on the other side there are some people very smart like Didactic, but incapable to make understand anything to the " stone head " group in front !!!
So as I said already, this topic could continued for a hundred years, each one will keep his position, because first of all, the agressive group, the "stone head" have no idea of what they are speaking about, and judge something they don't know !
Myself I was a simple worker with a shit life, I know the difference, but difficult to explain things to those who refuse some evidences, so better to give up and let them with their stupid convictions, because in any case, my life is cool, the porn girls life is at 80% cool, so we don't care the frustrated ones loosing time to write here ...

PW

CIAO....

E' la vita che ci porta a delle scelte è siamo adulti per assumerci le nostre
responzabilità,in poche parole(c'est la vie.....until we can have fun....)

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