EHI TU....
Paulo David......chi ti ha detto che Pierre è brutto è non piace alle donne
Ti stai sbagliando io lo trovo affascinante"ricorda conquista piu' il fascino che la bellezza"sei di una cattiveria unica augurando la morte agli altri
Perchè non pensi a divertirti con i tuoi amici se ne tieni,ne tieni
spero non siano come te idioti è vili

Paulo David.....Xavier Collins...Alias....Alias....Alias
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PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:there are many performers in France, England, Germany and also in USA ! So does it comes from the poor level of those countries ?

Just browse through the names, you can hardly find any from the aforementioned countries. Czech Republic and Hungary wins in this matter. Why?
Because they work for a small part of the fee of their western "colleagues".
So basically they are easier to exploit... but to who am I explaining this, you know it much better than me. Still you are trying to waffle about it.

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:I know I've helped many girls

Are you Santa Claus or the head of a charity organisation? I think now you are just being a hypocrite. You exploited those girls for you own well being, nothing else - and a handful of them became successful during this process. Well, not because of porn itself really, but "escorting" and "hunting". It's almost funny how you try to explain the unexplainable - but actually it's sad

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:Also you mistaken thinking I fuck in exchange of money

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:I just said the casting are for free and I "buy" the scene sometime after telling the girl there was a camera ! It's not the same like make a deal before !!!

So they come to you willingly and ask for no money? Are you serious?
So basically they are all sluts and are all suffering from father complex?
I seriously doubt that anyone could believe this (other than your "fans").

OK you know what ? each minute I loose answered people like you or other people against me is just a non sens !
I prefer edit some videos for my fans, in few days I'm going in a place where more than 100 girls are waiting for me, and honestly I don't care your point of view !
This discussion is close from my side, you and Paulo and who ever want can continued alone ...

PW

I have read all the arguments posted in this thread and while I have my own opinions I do think that those against Mr Woodman are using the wrong methods to present their points. I will explain.

Does Pierre take advantage of young naive poor women?, sure he does he is an experienced multi millionaire seducing young women with little or no worldly knowledge. His targets by his own admission are women with little or no experience so they are not prostitutes and most do come from emprovished countries which the former Eastern block is full of. My issue is with how he will take advantage of women who have admitted to him they are in love or in relationships and also the urination and degradation of these young women who have never been exposed to such actions. (I admit some may be curious but he does profit from doing these things because the consumer pays to see this.) This is a moral question and it is not anyones place to start judging other peoples morals.

Do some people get hurt?. I am sure some do as if I was engaged to a woman and found that she had anal sex with a millionaire older man who had promised her fame and fortune I would be very upset. Even more so if I found out he had urinated in her mouth and made he swallow it. I see people calling Pierre "Master" and all sorts of names as if we are in the presence of a demi-God but there is no mystery here. Pierre is rich he has become very rich from producing a quality product, he is also a powerful man is his chosen field as well as others with access to directors, modelling agencies and people who can provide these women with employment. He is also older and has been doing this for many years he has experience. Take an 18 year old from a village in East Europe and she is sat across him in a hotel to her that looks like heaven and he is promising her things she never thought possible (travel, money, fame) using all the above factors he will be successful more times than not. He has also managed to employ many people including women who make these girls feel comfortable and convince these women they can trust Pierre. (These women are of course paid handsomely for this service.) So again it becomes a moral question.
I am sure many girls think they are going to a "real model" casting and when someone has taken a bus across the country is young and broke they are very easy targets.

This is where the flip side comes in, the world is built on people taking advantage of others. In business even if you have a job your boss does not pay you anywhere close to what he earns. When directors steal the company assets and blow millions on escorts and cocaine it is the employees that suffer when their pensions are used to clear the debt. When the economy collapsed people lost homes and life savings due to others carelessness, is this fair? No. It is the life and the world. Pierre is first and foremost a business man he is making money from this. He has the advantage of fucking young women in process, maybe breaking hearts of their partners and maybe some become successful but it IS A BUSINESS.

Now to my point of using the wrong medium, its like me logging in a "I love beer" website and complaining about hating beer. Or a tobacco collector website and insulting smokers. Pierre has made his choices and lives with them, in this dog eat dog world it has made him very successful. In some way at least the women do get a reward limited as it and the emotional scars or family arguments are none of his problem as in any business. Tobacco companies do not care who dies of lung cancer and beer companies dont care who dies of liver cancer they are a business. They too target the young and take advantage of the fact it is not illegal to do so.

So whatever you opinions on the matter allow the man to face his own judgement, we all have choices in life. The rich will always be able to exploit the poor and the world will never be fair. If you do not like his product dont buy it but coming on here where you see he is worshipped by his legion of fans changes nothing. It a silly argument to say he should shoot his daughter in scenes because he will defend it to the end but reality is he would not want his daughter on tape with a man urinating in her mouth. The others like Ricardo who defend his every action as well as ex actresses are in his employ he pays them and makes them money. You are simply beating a dead horse. There are many people "his team" that all depend on him to survive so you will not win any arguments against fans and employees who all need him. You have to commend him because I believe he is the most successful independent director/producer in the world and he has done this alone. So like him or not he is doing what he wants and is good at it.

didactic

wow good summary!

I must said the same , bravo Didactic, when I get critic that way I just accept it and said you put you point of view in a clear and correct way with real opened eyes !!!
Just one mistake, I'm unfortunatly not a millionnaire...

PW

Didactic, I agree with most of what you say.
I think everyone has the right to judge someone else, we judge and we are being judged all the time. Because what is an opinion? A judgement. It does matter how harshly you express them though - they shouldn't be offensive. I believe I haven't crossed that line.
The girls are exploited - we agree on that, that's my main point. One cannot redeem himself by pointing out to the society and showing how others exploit people, thus lessening his own crimes. I mean just because there are a lot of thieves, we shouldn't encourage thievery and become one of them - it's still a crime, and the society will still reject it, no matter how many of them are out there.
About why I post my thoughts here: which forum would be better to express them, if not this? Should I turn to a feminist site or blog, or to the Helsinki Comittee (as someone suggested it)? No, the message wouldn't get to the people who are actually involved and who really need to think about this.
So again, I don't wish to change the world - just to reveal a few things, and make people look at some matters with a different point of view.

Here am I again to bother this forum.
Well, Mr. Insect had said that could find me and I'm scared now
For this italian that has write nice things I say: certainly I want to suck the cock of woodman but I 'm not sure he's gay like me. Italia is the best place country of europe so an italian person and is a man I dream to take in my asshole.
And for Pierre Woodman I ask: do you think I have a chance one day to suck your dick ?


S'il vous plait dites moi oui ...

CIAO.....

Hei Alias....quando dici l'italiano sono io Mi dispiace deluderti non
sono un uomo sono una donna.
Credi che dando fastidio i fan di questo forum andranno via ILLUSO.
Io credo che se ne aggiungeranno ancora.
Non insistere se non ti piace non venire piu' su questo forum che
saremmo piu' contenti

You can change my posts how many times you want Pierre "Insect" Woodman. This atitude is typical of cowards like you that don't have arguments to justify you dirty acts. I'll continue to post here untill I'll decide that I must to stop.
Let's go change this post too. I don't care cause I'll send many others.