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Esperenza wrote:
FungDong wrote: Nowadays, I think its very difficult to hide such thin.
You need to wake up seriously ! Pierre is right.
In those networks everyone is kept silent.
No! I think you should wake up in the 21st century!
(And I don't think Pierre needs a suck-up)

Just finished watching "The loudest voice" with Russel Crowe. It is about Roger Ailes. The guy who created Fox news and made it NBR. 1 news network. He was also the media consultant for Nixon, Reagan, Bush, Giuliani and ...Donald Trump.
But he was also a Bastard, a rapist and a son of a bitch, and everyone now knows about it, despite the fact that he was making all of his secretaries and anchorwomen signing NDAs that they wont sue him.
Here goes his "legacy"!

Times have seriously change in the last 2 decades and will continue to do so in Exponential rhythm. Nothing is hidden. Yesterday they starting to expose, after a looong list of other celebrities, the tenor Placido Domingo.
People doesn't afraid to talk now, even if the events occur decades before.

In the Ailes story a few simple audio recordin (from a cellphone) were enough for Rupert Murdoch to fire him after 20+ years of service in a heartbeat.
It doesn't matter if he made more than 20 billions for him. He was out in the blink of an eye and ...dead in a few months.

The presumption of innocence doesn't seem to apply anymore. Even a hint o inappropriation is enough to destroy you and your career and your public image.
And there are recording means everywhere. And proofs. And eventually everything will come to light. Nowadays with an exponential increasing rate.

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FungDong wrote:1996 it was a totally different era, in my opinion.
(Cellphones didn't even had cameras)
Nowadays, I think its very difficult to hide such things. Not to mention the sensitivity of the public in these matters is far more great...
Public reads the news in médias, in France a large amount of médias are "state-medias" (press called: le parisien, le monde, for exemple), also in USA, jeff bezos purchased the Washington Post precisely to get outside the medias control of Trump, also no matter how advanced a era is technologie (remember Predator...), it will not stop someone/a "network" to hide things or make "fake-proofs/witness" to fools peoples (you put your car in a place with no camera/or someone turn them off, someone put cocaine inside your car, ect ect ect)

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I have numerous recent examples that the control of the media didn't do anything for them or the purposes.
In Turkey Rejip Erdogan lost (twice) the control of Istanbul despite the strict and official control of TV and newspapers, not to mention the banned of twitter or other social media.
Before the 2016 93% of all the media were giving Hilary as the certain winner and most of the TV channels were bashing and ridicule Trump 24/7. Didn't work out so well.
Nowadays people are inform not only from TV networks or newspapers.
(personally I rarely watch any TV). And on the Internet you can seek and find many different sources for everything that is a concern to you.

BTW Bezos inappropriation (imagine that, the richest man on Earth) was immediately came out and it cost him a 45 billions divorce! So... :roll:

Bottom line is that No matter who you are or how much powerful, any inappropriate behavior WILL come to light and it will break you...

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I really wish that everytings would be as easy and simple as you say, unfortunaly it can take time to find "the goods sources" on the internet, depend wich info anyone is lookings for, but wikipedia for exemple it's full of "errors", also being "banned" from twitter mean nothing, as any account is automaticly suspended on a certain limit of reports number, the technical-staff behind twitter will not check immediatly if the account reported truly did bad stuff or not (exemple 150 dump feminists reports the twitter of PW simply because they don't love him and it's instantly turned down). So again, "networks" and evil group of people can do lot of damage, foolings the system, advanced technology or not.

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Jean wrote: So again, "networks" and evil group of people can do lot of damage, foolings the system, advanced technology or not.
Yeah. I agree that they are still out there, but their role will be continuously diminished, and people will be more brave to report and condemn.
Times are changing...

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Body autospy found some broken bones in his neck and confirm he killed himself !!!
Maybe someone "helped" him to make it but what I don't understand if that kind of prisoner was under high surveillance, there are videos looking 24/7 the door and it's easy to see who came in/out, what time etc ...
For me it's like the attack of Pentagone in 2001, you have at least 100 cameras around the building, but ONLY ONE VIDEO has seen the "plane crach" and FBI has pick up the material from all gaz stations, or any building around with a CCTV system to finaly show the world a video that I can do myself with my editing software in 5 minutes ...
So many people are dump that they have no effort to do to convince the planet ( I mean most of )

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« Selon que vous serez puissant ou misérable, les jugements des cours vous rendront blanc ou noir »
Ca resume TOUT, ce que Jean de La Fontaine a écrit ca au 17 eme siecle, comme quoi il savait ce qu'il disait.
On est au 21 eme siecle et cette phrase est toujours d'actualité !
Attendre comme d'hab que l'histoire se tasse et elle sera oubliée, c'est comme l'affaire de Jamal Khashoggi en octobre dernier, deja oubliée, les coupables sont restés impunis et c'est preque comme si rien ne s'était passé, et c'est quasiment toujours pareil !

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@ Shakirass

Si tu parles de Jean de La Fontaine, il est né en 1621 et mort en 1695. Il aura donc eu du mal à écrire quoi que ce soit au XV ème siècle ( 1401 - 1500 ). ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

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Je me suis permis de "retaper" le texte de Shakirass et on lui pardonne le 15 au lieu de 17 pour se concentrer sur son intention louable de nous rappeler que de tout temps nous ne sommes que des fourmis que les puissants écrasent sous leur bottes à leur guise sans que rien ni personne ne les en empèche ... :( :( :(

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