RUSSIA - UKRAINE 2022 CONFLICT

[Spiderdog]

Plus la peine de vous fâcher Vitaly , la guerre est bientôt terminée et la Russie va s'en mettre plein les poches car Poutine a expliqué vouloir mettre la main sur l'Europe pour utiliser le petrole Russe et couper la dependance energetique des occidentaux au moyen orient donc il est en position de force la population rêve de repayer le Gazole 1.20 € au lieu de 2 € donc ça va bientôt craquer et on vivra tous heureux en paix et avec du carburant pas cher !

Je n'ai pas l'intention de m'énerver, je ne fais que constater les faits !!!
Personne n'a besoin de cette Union européenne pour la contrôler. Ils vont s'autodétruire, au sens figuré, voire au sens propre s'ils en viennent à une guerre nucléaire. Ou bien ils vont se mettre dans une situation géopolitique telle que personne ne les prendra plus au sérieux. Et cela correspond tout à fait aux plans de la Russie, des États-Unis et de la Chine. Si l'Union européenne était plus intelligente, elle n'essaierait pas de lécher les bottes des États-Unis, mais tenterait de trouver ses propres voies de développement en tirant parti de la lutte entre les superpuissances. Mais, hélas, pour l'instant, ce ne sont que des idiots qui sont au pouvoir chez vous !
Aujourd'hui, tout le monde vit dans un monde capitaliste et tente par tous les moyens de gagner de l'argent et des privilèges. Poutine est partisan d'une approche évolutive. Il estime qu'un imbécile finira par se détruire lui-même par ses propres actions stupides, et que l'Union européenne s'en charge très bien. C'est là tout le paradoxe : l'Union européenne vit elle aussi dans la paradigme capitaliste, mais son élite politique fait tout pour nuire à elle-même et à ses peuples sur le plan économique. C'est pourquoi il n'est pas nécessaire de les pousser dans cet abîme, ils y tombent d'eux-mêmes.
La Russie ne fait que gagner de l'argent. Elle vendra du pétrole et du gaz, même au diable, pourvu qu'on lui paie. L'argent est nécessaire au développement, car le pétrole et le gaz finiront bien par s'épuiser, ou cesseront d'être des sources d'énergie incontournables. Il y aura le nucléaire, d'autres sources d'énergie, etc. C'est pourquoi, pendant la période où l'on extrait et commercialise ces ressources, il faut non seulement gagner de l'argent, mais aussi le dépenser judicieusement pour le développement, afin de rester en phase avec son temps ou de le devancer sur le plan technologique. Et seul un État qui sera compétitif et dominant à tous égards pourra être considéré comme souverain. Et la Russie, malgré tous les obstacles, s'efforce d'y parvenir. Quant à l'Union européenne, la Russie s'en moque. Vous ne voulez pas acheter ? Tant pis, il y aura d'autres acheteurs. Nous verrons bien ce qu'il adviendra de vous à l'avenir. La Hongrie et la Slovaquie achètent du pétrole et du gaz à la Russie, et je pense qu'elles ne le regrettent pas.

Là je vous approuve tout à fait l'Europe devrait arrêter ses conneries et tenter de trouver sa voie seul le problème c'est que chaque état veut tirer sa couverture , il y a pas d'Union et en même temps c'est compréhensible il s'agit d'états qui ce sont fait la guerre constamment à travers l'histoire et les rancœur nationalistes sont restés ancrées ! Comme personne n'a dépassé ce stade là chacun se méfie de l'autre et au final ça ne va nul part et finit en technocratie imposée par l'Idéologie Allemande d'après guerre !

[PIERRE WOODMAN]

Now that Hungary is in the pocket of Brussels it will be intersting to see what will be the next developpment.
What doesn't makes me happy is the fact Poutine said yesterday morning that now Hungary has joined the list of the EU countries ennemy of Russia.

That was the last thing I wished to read ...

PW

[MVitaly5]

Now that Hungary is in the pocket of Brussels it will be intersting to see what will be the next developpment.
What doesn't makes me happy is the fact Poutine said yesterday morning that now Hungary has joined the list of the EU countries ennemy of Russia.

That was the last thing I wished to read ...

PW

1). Putin didn’t say that now (after the Hungarian elections)!
How many times have I told you to trust only information from primary sources! Did you see Putin say that himself?
You’re falling into the same trap again, believing your lying media. That’s how you’re being manipulated!
2). Hungary has long been on the list of countries unfriendly to Russia, even back in Orbán’s time. Hungary is a NATO member and has always supported all sanctions against Russia. That makes it all the more ridiculous that your propaganda claims Orbán is supposedly a “friend” of Russia and Putin. This narrative is being forced upon you, and countless idiots have swallowed it hook, line, and sinker.
Only when Hungary was supposed to vote on phasing out Russian energy sources did Orbán start to resist; otherwise, Hungary has done nothing good for Russia!

Yesterday, the Russian Ministry of Defense posted a list online of facilities across Europe that will be manufacturing drones for Ukraine. Europe is being drawn deeper and deeper into the war with Russia.
In Russia, everyone is already sick of Putin’s excessive “gentlemanliness” toward Russia’s enemies. You don’t understand words; you perceive words and warnings as weakness. You only perceive strength. Everyone is waiting for the Russian army to destroy all military facilities on EU territory. Plus economic strangulation. Now is the most opportune time for this. Moreover, there is no need to act like Israel and kill ordinary people. An ultimatum: “All civilians must evacuate the facility within 24 hours.” And after the deadline expires, destroy the facility with precision-guided weapons. The European Union is practically asking for such consequences. Especially since, according to Trump, NATO is a “paper tiger” and always has been, and the U.S. will not come to the Europeans’ defense. Now is the most opportune time for this. Everyone in Russia is fed up with the European Union’s endless arrogance. For now, only Putin is saving you from such consequences!

And don’t go thinking I’m some radical, aggressive, bloodthirsty cynic. Why should only Ukrainians and Russians suffer from a war provoked and supported by the West? Russia needs to take a page from Iran’s book. Everyone who supports the U.S. and Israel has gotten what they deserved. Moreover, I am not calling for people to be killed. The sooner you realize that you will suffer the most negative consequences of this war, the sooner this war will end. That is the logic and the cause-and-effect relationship.

[MVitaly5]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA1YCYflWeg

Pour les francophones...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3_xZZ17Xj8&t=1s

[PIERRE WOODMAN]

Vitaly, I have seen an Orban interview of French TV where Orban defended Russia and said NATO was responsible of the war situation in Ukrain !!!
I think when Orban supported sanction against Russia it was only because he needed the EU money for Hungary and was blocked.
As now he just did agreed with the 90 B€ for Ukrain because all is finished for him and he can't go against brussels anymore ...
But he said yesterday in an interview that EU prepare a war in 2030 with Russia ..

https://x.com/HungaryBased/status/2047714684816773229


PW

[MVitaly5]

I know that, Pierre! But, you see, we live in different communities, and as a result, we may perceive information and facts differently. For most people in the world (non-Westerners), and for me in particular, what Orbán said is an obvious, long-established fact. That’s why I don’t see statements like this as “courtesies” toward Russia. But for many people living in Western countries, or who identify with them, what Orbán said makes it seem like he did Russia a “big favor, or paid it a courtesy.” Plus, they immediately labeled him “pro-Russian.” It’s a standard propaganda cliché used when someone needs to be demonized or discredited: accusations of corruption, some other compromising information, or accusations of working for a foreign power. But Orbán is precisely a pragmatic, shrewd politician, and he is not stupid; he understands where the real power lies. He is not “pro-Russian,” but first and foremost, he is a NATIONALLY ORIENTED POLITICIAN!!! And it is difficult for him to maintain a balance in Hungary’s current situation, which is heavily dependent on external factors.
And it is precisely the rest of the Western political elite that is not nationally oriented. The interests of their own nation-state and their own people are not a priority for them! Their top priority is serving the “agenda” of the globalist ruling elites—call it what you will: “shadow government,” “deep state,” “Masonic lodge,” etc.—it doesn’t matter. The fact is that this policy is aimed at promoting actions that curb competitors—competitors to the West—in geopolitical and economic terms. All the main political power in Western states consists of temporary puppets serving the globalist agenda! Your entire political elite and propaganda machine works toward this, using proxy forces (Ukraine), buffer states, and the like, without shying away from lies, hypocrisy, and manipulation! The main enemies are Russia and China!


As for the war, let me put it this way. If there are no radical political transformations in European countries in the near future, you’ll end up with a Fourth Reich! Many people are mistaken in thinking that Nazism was the defining characteristic of the Third Reich. Nazism was merely an ideological superstructure in the politics of Germany at that time, serving as a factor in uniting the Germans and fueling their desire for revenge. Furthermore, Nazi policies effectively played on the established historical mindset of the European people, rooted in a sense of superiority over others in the world. But the main factor was the totalitarian and authoritarian nature of Germany’s overall politics and leadership.And the same thing will happen in the European Union in the future, that is, a policy that will aggressively impose such narratives on its community, backed by propaganda about the superiority of its community over others, thereby aggressively promoting its competitive advantages in geopolitics and the global economy, openly suppressing its global competitors by any means necessary. In the modern European Union, everything is moving toward the establishment of a totalitarian policy that could be called “globalist totalitarian liberalism.” And authoritarian leadership will be concentrated in the Brussels bureaucracy, albeit nominally and technically. Real power will lie with those who oversee these mechanisms. These are certain political forces of global capital in the U.S., especially once they get rid of Trump, who pursues non-systemic policies. I spoke of them above. Hence the “Fourth Reich.” It doesn’t matter what it’s called; the essence will be exactly that. If Europe does not reconsider its colonial mentality and belief in human superiority, the very prospect I have described will come to pass. And consequently, war is inevitable! I think she's already on her way!
In my view, there are certainly some nuances! The current European community is, after all, not what it was before World War I. Today, it is highly heterogeneous. There are already so many people with different mentalities and priorities, coming from foreign environments. And the overall passion and drive are no longer what they used to be. Most modern Europeans are very self-centered and less focused on common national or globalist interests; they are pampered and complacent due to their comfortable lives—especially those they enjoyed in the recent past—and do not want to fight or die, especially in external, aggressive wars. But it is precisely the establishment of a totalitarian leadership structure in Europe, combined with the deterioration of their quality of life, the artificial demonization, and the false search for external “culprits”—that is, fabricated “enemies”—as is being done now, that could intentionally and forcibly place people before a dilemma where they will have no choice!
We’ll see what happens, but for now, I’m very skeptical that the situation will improve...

[PIERRE WOODMAN]

I feel the same unfortunately !!!

PW