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I'm looking for a specific scenario where during the interview the woman was either scandalized or opposed strongly to the idea of having sex.
But later Pierre got them to do it.

My favorite casting is Angel K. She says NO repeatedly and clearly but eventually relents and went on to be his girlfriend for a short while before Pierre met Sophie Paris.

Presumably these would be videos tagged with "First Time on Camera" but even Angel K's casting scene has no such tag...

This is a similar request to Girls who agreed to RGS after strong "NO" during interview.

Others that I can think of:
Jade Flower - Hard to follow because there are no subtitles. And my AI couldn't translate when I told it the audio was probably "Uzbek" she is asked to go into doggy position and she says No. She comes back from the bathroom and agrees to a massage. Pierre jokes about killing her after that they have sex.
Thanks.

Well nowadays it's funny to see that some journalist asked me :
"Don't you think that ask more than once something to a woman is a psychological rape" ???

If no one stop the woke and their craziness one day soon it will not even possible to ask a woman : "do you think the weather will be better tomorrow ??? without get a law suit !!!

So come on human have a mouth and a tongue to say yes or no but also legs to stand up and leave my room if not happy of the discussion !!! Some girls did that which prove when you are not happy to stay you just go ...

PW

FunkyColdMedina wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 18, 2025 1:58 am

I'm looking for a specific scenario where during the interview the woman was either scandalized or opposed strongly to the idea of having sex.
But later Pierre got them to do it.

My favorite casting is Angel K. She says NO repeatedly and clearly but eventually relents and went on to be his girlfriend for a short while before Pierre met Sophie Paris.

Presumably these would be videos tagged with "First Time on Camera" but even Angel K's casting scene has no such tag...

This is a similar request to Girls who agreed to RGS after strong "NO" during interview.

Others that I can think of:
Jade Flower - Hard to follow because there are no subtitles. And my AI couldn't translate when I told it the audio was probably "Uzbek" she is asked to go into doggy position and she says No. She comes back from the bathroom and agrees to a massage. Pierre jokes about killing her after that they have sex.
Thanks.

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In the early castings, there were many cases where it was a clear ‘no’ at the beginning, but Pierre later converted it into a ‘yes. Like :- Wendy, Rebecca, Yasmine, Alexa May

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 19, 2025 5:55 am

So come on human have a mouth and a tongue to say yes or no but also legs to stand up and leave my room if not happy of the discussion !!! Some girls did that which prove when you are not happy to stay you just go ...

PW

Unfortunately, that's not how things work, Pierre.

Yes, the women who had sex with you share a great deal of blame. You never physically forced them into doing anything. But that doesn't absolve you from helping to ruin their lives. Manipulation is not a crime, not one you can be charged with, that's for sure. Neither is pestering them for hours, tempting them with money, for hours on end, until they eventually say yes. But both you and Gabriella are most certainly guilty, in the worst possible way, by hiding behind your "reputation" as a porn director. Thanks to your actions, you have left indelible wounds on those women, wounds that cannot be physically seen and will never heal.

It's almost ironic that you start up another thread at Christmas, trying to justify your past actions. Christmas is a time that most of us enjoy, spending time with our loved ones. But some women will never be fully able to enjoy Christmas like you and I, because they still harbour the shame of what they did; it's always there, even at Christmas. You're a big believer in Karma, I know. Every time you win a lawsuit over your enemies, you remind us of how inevitable it is, but you fail to realise that karma works for EVERYONE. Despite your excuses, despite how wrong you are going to tell me I am, and despite your arrogance, karma knows your names too.

So, yes, the women did have a choice, and they could have walked away Pierre, but they didn't. They will forever regret and have to live with those decisions and mistakes, decisions and mistakes you eagerly and knowingly helped them to make.

Merry Christmas to you both.

TopCat wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 19, 2025 2:05 pm

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 19, 2025 5:55 am

So come on human have a mouth and a tongue to say yes or no but also legs to stand up and leave my room if not happy of the discussion !!! Some girls did that which prove when you are not happy to stay you just go ...

PW

Unfortunately, that's not how things work, Pierre.

Yes, the women who had sex with you share a great deal of blame. You never physically forced them into doing anything. But that doesn't absolve you from helping to ruin their lives. Manipulation is not a crime, not one you can be charged with, that's for sure. Neither is pestering them for hours, tempting them with money, for hours on end, until they eventually say yes. But both you and Gabriella are most certainly guilty, in the worst possible way, by hiding behind your "reputation" as a porn director. Thanks to your actions, you have left indelible wounds on those women, wounds that cannot be physically seen and will never heal.

It's almost ironic that you start up another thread at Christmas, trying to justify your past actions. Christmas is a time that most of us enjoy, spending time with our loved ones. But some women will never be fully able to enjoy Christmas like you and I, because they still harbour the shame of what they did; it's always there, even at Christmas. You're a big believer in Karma, I know. Every time you win a lawsuit over your enemies, you remind us of how inevitable it is, but you fail to realise that karma works for EVERYONE. Despite your excuses, despite how wrong you are going to tell me I am, and despite your arrogance, karma knows your names too.

So, yes, the women did have a choice, and they could have walked away Pierre, but they didn't. They will forever regret and have to live with those decisions and mistakes, decisions and mistakes you eagerly and knowingly helped them to make.

Merry Christmas to you both.

@TopCat

I have some pushback for you TopCat!! I want to chime in on this discussion because I have an opinion on it!

I am on Pierre's side with some of this so i will defend him !

When i first came here 5 years ago, I had criticism for Pierre because I had 'mixed' feelings about some of Pierre's old recruitment methods from his early days, but once i saw how positively he treats the women he hires and works with and how good he is to them, i had a change of heart about all of it.

What you need to understand TopCat is that this is not about whether or not what Pierre's does is right or wrong

it's all about the issue that fine line ┃ between 'consent' vs 'coercon' and the simple fact that most Women are afraid to admit that they have r*pe fantasies and actually want rough sex and hard orgasms!

Take a look at this except here
Yes, Pierre takes shocking risks that an average civilian man would be too afraid to take—and perhaps should be afraid to take

but 99% of these girls and women that say 'No" have a big happy 'SMILE' on their face after its all over!

It would be different if a good number of women came out againt Pierre and had real evidence of Pierre ruining their lives and hurting them physically, but all we ever see are the girls that LIE about him and make things up that aren't true!

There have been so many castings where 'No, No, No!' became 'Yes, Yes, Yes". I can't count on my two hands the number of casting lik this

Many of them even say 'Oooh yeah, lets do that again Pierre, you fucked me good!'

Even the recent casting video with Florencia! We saw live on camera what happened! "No!" became "Yes!"

some of these women even go "Oh yeah i liked that, that was the best sex ever, lets do it again!"

The best example of a shocking casting that started with a hard "NO" was the Russian Girl 'Xenia Lova" casting! That was shocking 🫣 I would be too afraid to ever do something like that but that's the difference between us and Pierre! Pierre is fearless Xenia had a happy smile on her face after it was over and was laughing with Pierre!

Yes - Pierre does change some of these girls lives forever - but you need to remember that Sex Work is what Pierre does for a living and he creates opportunities for thesee girls to make money and do sex work! he's not running a charity organization! We all need to remember this!

But Pierre is not a bad guy! He's a good person and he treats the women WELL - he just takes that an average civilian man would be too afraid to take—and perhaps should be afraid to take

Dear todd, you know so little about women.

Did you know that in a study it was found that 22% of rape victims (the ones who were brave enough to admit it) said that they had powerful orgasms during their assault. They were assaulted, and raped, yet they had orgasms. I suppose with your reasoning you would liken this to leaving one of Pierre's castings with "a BIG happy smile on their face after it's all over". Something they fantasized about perhaps, and once it happened they must have been happy because they had an orgasm?
How a woman responds after she had done something deeply personal with a STRANGER, is not the same as she responds after acting out a fantasy with a loved one, especially when she did not want to do it in the first place.

Do you see how pathetic and infantile your post sounds now?

Don't get me wrong, I don't believe Pierre has "physically" raped anyone however (you seem to be quick to bring physical rape into the conversation) but he and Gabby HAVE manipulated many young women. The middle aged women today don't want to confront Pierre, they just want to forget him. That's why women only come forward AFTER men like Pierre die. A few women have come forward with ridiculous statements about Pierre. (Lana Rhodes for one)The honest ones, the ones who have been badly effected by him remain silent, trying to forget.

When Pierre leaves this world, he won't leave behind a great legacy, he and Gabby will just become even more notorious than they already are.

TopCat wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 19, 2025 6:53 pm

Dear todd, you know so little about women.

Did you know that in a study it was found that 22% of rape victims (the ones who were brave enough to admit it) said that they had powerful orgasms during their assault. They were assaulted, and raped, yet they had orgasms. I suppose with your reasoning you would liken this to leaving one of Pierre's castings with "a BIG happy smile on their face after it's all over". Something they fantasized about perhaps, and once it happened they must have been happy because they had an orgasm?
How a woman responds after she had done something deeply personal with a STRANGER, is not the same as she responds after acting out a fantasy with a loved one, especially when she did not want to do it in the first place.

Do you see how pathetic and infantile your post sounds now?

Don't get me wrong, I don't believe Pierre has "physically" raped anyone however (you seem to be quick to bring physical rape into the conversation) but he and Gabby HAVE manipulated many young women. The middle aged women today don't want to confront Pierre, they just want to forget him. That's why women only come forward AFTER men like Pierre die. A few women have come forward with ridiculous statements about Pierre. (Lana Rhodes for one)The honest ones, the ones who have been badly effected by him remain silent, trying to forget.

When Pierre leaves this world, he won't leave behind a great legacy, he and Gabby will just become even more notorious than they already are.

Alright Topcat! I'm not afraid of a debate! i'll play!!

I bring up 'r*ape fantasies because women do in-fact have them! You can say its not true all you want but there's research that backs this up!!

Current research in the United states indicates that between 31% and 57% of women have fantasies in which they are forced into sex against their will, and for 9% to 17% of women these are a frequent or favorite fantasy experience. Erotic rape fantasies are paradoxical: they do not appear to make sense. Why would a person have an erotic and pleasurable fantasy about an event that, in real life, would be abhorrent and traumatic?

Also Erotic Fiction and Porn Novels that are written BY WOMEN and FOR WOMEN reinforce these statistics! And those sstories typically portrays women being 'TAKEN AGAINST THEIR WILL!' Feminist women are the ones who purchase these Porn Novels!!

And yes, rape survivors do have orgasms when being assulted but the women that tell Pierre 'NO!' after they finally give into his sex and after its all over are they shaking and crying and needing medical attention ? No!! They usually have happy smiles!!

So i just destroyed your argument!!!

To further DESTROY your argument take a look at this article about Porn Girl Allora Ashlyn

https://avn.com/news/video/fresh-faces- ... lyn-152595

She outright admits that she loves ROUGH SEX that's violent And Pierre gave her the BDSM expeerience she wanted. she says it was her best sex ever!!

I will admit - i do have MIXED FEELINGS about Pierre's recruitment methods from his early days! I'm glad he no longer misleads women like he once did but that is the only behavior I have issues with...his early 'deception' methods..byond that Pierre is not a bad guy in my opinion.

He treats the women VERY WELL - and this is the reaosn why ALL of the porn women and sex workers in Europe want to work with him because they KNOW he won't abuse them and that he will treat them good.

That's why i always say Pierre walks that Risky Line between Consent and Coercion and the girl secrently wanting to be taken!

it's a dangrous/fearful line │ that Pierre walks on! That' why i always say he is fearless! I'm too afraid to take the risks he does! But that's why we love him!! that's why they call him the woodman!

He shows us over and over again that 'No No No' really means "Yes Yes Yes"

You have both neglected to include that Pierre always has a backup camera situated to record the entire exchange with any new model or potential initiate. This is to protect himself and family from any blow back about "rape" or "coercion" or "diminished capacity"...

I have found over my long continuous membership that Pierre engages these women in conversation. Asking questions about themselves.Getting to know them on a nonsexual level before beginning to delve into what they admit to liking sexually, what they find as unacceptable sexually, what they might be curious about sexually. Developing an idea of how to approach each logically. One of my favorite exchanges was with Rebecca regarding "not normal" sex...Pierre knew she had never experienced anal sex...so asked her about food...were there things she didn't like to eat? How could one know what they didn't like unless they tried it? Conversations...allowing each to come to some conclusions for themselves...either they leave or become curious enough to carry on...Some times we members are lucky enough to witness the exploration...Sometimes not...But that is up to the woman to sign the release.

Just some thoughts

daba52 wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 19, 2025 9:56 pm

You have both neglected to include that Pierre always has a backup camera situated to record the entire exchange with any new model or potential initiate. This is to protect himself and family from any blow back about "rape" or "coercion" or "diminished capacity"...

I agree! Pierre understandably needs to protect himself by filming all interactions to ensure that if a girl decides to 'lie' about what happend later that he is protected. This is a smart practice!

Because we see that even with video evidence on no wrongdoing, Girls still tell lies about Pierre many years later.

kon wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 19, 2025 1:52 pm

In the early castings, there were many cases where it was a clear ‘no’ at the beginning, but Pierre later converted it into a ‘yes. Like :- Wendy, Rebecca, Yasmine, Alexa May

Thank you for the recommendations.

I wish the folks trying to argue about morality would start their own thread instead of diluting this one. All of these women signed a release AFTER the fact. Let us let them speak for themselves instead of stanning for people who haven't spoken poorly of Pierre on this thread.

I enjoy watching someone convince a person to do something they didn't know they were capable or desiring to do.