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What's your opinion on what's happening these days ?

Gabriella tchekan wants to close the door of Europe for all refugees as she said before.

Gabifan wrote: ↑

Fri Jun 13, 2025 8:07 pm

What's your opinion on what's happening these days ?

I hope peace will come soon for both nations.

Gabifan wrote: ↑

Fri Jun 13, 2025 8:11 pm

Gabriella tchekan wants to close the door of Europe for all refugees as she said before.

What the fuck the migrants coming to europe and Gabriella Tchekan have to do with this Israel / Iran conflict ???

Blarit is right we can only hope for peace ...


PW

I think it's the most dangerous war for the whole world, Israel must not always underestimate everyone! However I really hope everything will be resolved with a democratic agreement

It is easy to just think in terms of "Israel vs Iran, who do you prefer?" just in a vacuum.
However, the world doesn't work like that in isolation.
Israel has launched and attacked and killed senior people and also civilians in another country.
So now there are 200+ other countries thinking if they can do this, why not us? or if they can do it to them, maybe we are next?
They are doing it preemptively, but the fact is Iran has attacked no one directly while Israel has. (it is presumed Iran supply the proxy organizations that attack Israel).
To me, the moral high ground for Israel has eroded at this point with the sheer number of Palestine civilians they have killed and the direct Country on Country attack on Iran. They have won many short term victories but long term it is not clear if these violent moves will prove to be the wisest decisions.

What Israel did is not entirely wrong — the situation on the ground is different. In Palestine, Hamas is a terrorist organization. They use local civilians as human shields and attack Israel from among them, even building underground bunkers. So why do you support Palestine and Hamas ?

If you know that you have to live permanently next to your neighbor, then you shouldn't keep fighting just because someone else is supporting you. There's a saying in our culture — 'Marriage should not be based on others' lives; it should be based on your own.' Shouldn’t Palestine understand that? Instead of staying peaceful and living with their neighbors, they keep taking weapons from Iran and fighting.

All of this is happening because of America... America needs to be taught a lesson, especially Donald Trump — he’s the one who fuels all these conflicts.

Yes, America fuels it, but it's a lot bigger than Trump. It is a consistent theme for decades. The immense power of the Israel lobby in America is no secret.
I do not support Palestine, but their people are held hostage by their militant government and largely powerless to organize and execute an alternative. So there are only so many of those civilian casualties that can be justified as colateral damage by Israel. 50 thousand is probably too many. Also the poverty and destruction is only creating the next generation of recruits and eventual leaders for the militant groups.
So my main point as before is that I don't understand the long term strategy of Israel.

This is one of those conflicts where the ideal outcome would be for both sides to nuke each other out of existence. Too bad it can't happen that way and they have to drag Iran (probably the only muslim-majority country worth saving) and the US (along with each and every one of their vassal states) with them.

jasonferdton wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 15, 2025 6:52 pm

Yes, America fuels it, but it's a lot bigger than Trump. It is a consistent theme for decades. The immense power of the Israel lobby in America is no secret.
I do not support Palestine, but their people are held hostage by their militant government and largely powerless to organize and execute an alternative. So there are only so many of those civilian casualties that can be justified as colateral damage by Israel. 50 thousand is probably too many. Also the poverty and destruction is only creating the next generation of recruits and eventual leaders for the militant groups.
So my main point as before is that I don't understand the long term strategy of Israel.

Earlier it was the British who followed the policy of 'divide and rule'; now that place has been taken over by the USA. The only advantage the USA has is that they have no enemies around their borders… otherwise, by now they would have been blown to pieces. They should be hit with a nuclear bomb at least once — only then will they understand how much destruction a terrorist attack can cause.

Even after experiencing something like 26/11, these fools still support such organizations. Just recently, that foolish old man Trump declared a terrorist from Syria as a national leader — he doesn’t realize that his own country has been ruined by such people. Even in the Russia-Ukraine conflict, Ukraine doesn't seem to understand that Russia is their immediate neighbor — someone they have to face every day — and yet they keep relying on America’s help to fight, just like India and Pakistan.

mspm89 wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 15, 2025 9:06 pm

This is one of those conflicts where the ideal outcome would be for both sides to nuke each other out of existence. Too bad it can't happen that way and they have to drag Iran (probably the only muslim-majority country worth saving) and the US (along with each and every one of their vassal states) with them.

The root of all this is just one — the USA. Kim Jong Un should drop a nuclear bomb on the USA once… then the USA will be put in its place.