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the problem is thaht u can have the same problems on crypto for example plans for regulation and your breaking point is convert money from and to crypto. The exchanges are now under a special review 2 for example binance is no longer allowed give out a stable coin.

Also of views of tax and automatic processing is crypto pain.

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In my opinion payment companies should not have and do not have right to decide wether a business is ethical or unethical as long if it is legal.
If someone accuses some other one, the second one stays innocent until conviction. And Pierre or Rocco aren’t even officially accused!
Too bad that in our modern western society all „wokies“ talk about values but when it comes to the basic values of our democracy the same people act as autocrats.

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Master4SubCpl wrote:
Tue Feb 14, 2023 11:35 am
In my opinion payment companies should not have and do not have right to decide wether a business is ethical or unethical as long if it is legal.
If someone accuses some other one, the second one stays innocent until conviction. And Pierre or Rocco aren’t even officially accused!
Too bad that in our modern western society all „wokies“ talk about values but when it comes to the basic values of our democracy the same people act as autocrats.
The problem is that the credit card companies a private businesses and can make their own decisions who they want as a customer.

Simple example: if you have business buying and selling used cars, you can freely decide that that you don't want to deal with Tesla cars, totally up to you.....

Same goes for Mastercard if they don't want to deal with a certain type of porn, totally up to them....

:)

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Bobby wrote:
Tue Feb 14, 2023 12:38 pm
Master4SubCpl wrote:
Tue Feb 14, 2023 11:35 am
In my opinion payment companies should not have and do not have right to decide wether a business is ethical or unethical as long if it is legal.
If someone accuses some other one, the second one stays innocent until conviction. And Pierre or Rocco aren’t even officially accused!
Too bad that in our modern western society all „wokies“ talk about values but when it comes to the basic values of our democracy the same people act as autocrats.
The problem is that the credit card companies a private businesses and can make their own decisions who they want as a customer.

Simple example: if you have business buying and selling used cars, you can freely decide that that you don't want to deal with Tesla cars, totally up to you.....

Same goes for Mastercard if they don't want to deal with a certain type of porn, totally up to them....

:)
If credit card companies were companies like car dealers and there were many of them you are totally right.

But credit card companies are payment service providers and in this function they offer a necessary product.

If your electricity company don’t want to make deals with you anymore you will have a huge problem.

On one hand I think Visa/MC/Amex should be more regulated so that they don’t exploit their power, on the other hand it is sad that a the state (Fed, EZB) isn’t able to provide a digital payment system away from private companies.

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Hi Pierre what a disgrace....at first i was thinking was my pc the problem...
I don't understand porn rules, credit card rules i just wonder if you can back up all and have your works back in your site.
Why just some and some others not??
I read it all and you don't look so negative and it gave me some hope.
For me this is not just your work but also your life 🙏

Is anywhere a list about the one's not available right now on the site??

Is it either an issue about credit cards/payments that you can solve it and backup everything in the normality or something about rules/law/sexual practices etc???
For me this is the main question i wonder about

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Alberto wrote:
Tue Feb 14, 2023 2:15 pm
Is it either an issue about credit cards/payments that you can solve it and backup everything in the normality or something about rules/law/sexual practices etc???
For me this is the main question i wonder about
As far as I understood it’s about the rules of the payment providers set by credit card companies such as Visa and MC.

So based on that I doubt the site could ever go back to „normal“ as Pierre is violating against these rules. This includes „humiliating women“ even if the women are totally ok with it beforehand (eg the SMM series) or doing something against their will - even if afterwards the girls are totally ok with it (I remember the scene where Pierre puts his dick straight into Diora Coopers mouth and she said „wait that was in my ass“). All members love Pierre for such harder scenes and spectacular moments but with such prude rules build for companies from the „land of the free“ I think that will not be possible anymore.

Pierre mentioned two types of the site: one vanilla one which can be paid per credit card and another one with the real stuff. But how should it be paid? I doubt this would be as comfortable as at the moment. :(

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I really don´t understand it. There are a lot of Sites on the Net which offer much harder Stuff, like the GGG John Thompson and all the SM and Gang Bang Sites. They can all be paid by credit Card. This site is really "Soft" compared to other Sites.

If Pierre really offers all "Hard" Stuff only by Cryprto Payments, then he makes a lot of loss of members and money. Most of the older People starting around the age of, lets say around 35, never used an never will use Crypto.... me too, or even never heard about it! And i Never found a Porn Site, where it is not possible to Use Credit Card or maybe ..

In that case i think that a lot of People will wait instead until the Scenes are on the Pirate Sites, which can not be stopped in my Opinion. And that is exactly the opposite of what´s in Pierres and the real Friend´s of Porn, Interest :?

So let´s hope everything will be normal in a few Weeks :P

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charliema wrote:
Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:35 pm
I really don´t understand it. There are a lot of Sites on the Net which offer much harder Stuff, like the GGG John Thompson and all the SM and Gang Bang Sites. They can all be paid by credit Card. This site is really "Soft" compared to other Sites.

If Pierre really offers all "Hard" Stuff only by Cryprto Payments, then he makes a lot of loss of members and money. Most of the older People starting around the age of, lets say around 35, never used an never will use Crypto.... me too, or even never heard about it! And i Never found a Porn Site, where it is not possible to Use Credit Card or maybe ..

In that case i think that a lot of People will wait instead until the Scenes are on the Pirate Sites, which can not be stopped in my Opinion. And that is exactly the opposite of what´s in Pierres and the real Friend´s of Porn, Interest :?

So let´s hope everything will be normal in a few Weeks :P
The question will not be what Pierre wants and if Pierre looses money. The question will be what the credit card companies want.

And yes, there are much harder size, but the causer of this mess are fighting a war against Pierre and Rocco. So they are making pressure on Visa/MC and Epoch. And with „wokeness“ you can mobilize a lot these days even if your opinion is the minority.

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Master4SubCpl wrote:
Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:42 pm
charliema wrote:
Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:35 pm
I really don´t understand it. There are a lot of Sites on the Net which offer much harder Stuff, like the GGG John Thompson and all the SM and Gang Bang Sites. They can all be paid by credit Card. This site is really "Soft" compared to other Sites.

If Pierre really offers all "Hard" Stuff only by Cryprto Payments, then he makes a lot of loss of members and money. Most of the older People starting around the age of, lets say around 35, never used an never will use Crypto.... me too, or even never heard about it! And i Never found a Porn Site, where it is not possible to Use Credit Card or maybe ..

In that case i think that a lot of People will wait instead until the Scenes are on the Pirate Sites, which can not be stopped in my Opinion. And that is exactly the opposite of what´s in Pierres and the real Friend´s of Porn, Interest :?

So let´s hope everything will be normal in a few Weeks :P
The question will not be what Pierre wants and if Pierre looses money. The question will be what the credit card companies want.

And yes, there are much harder size, but the causer of this mess are fighting a war against Pierre and Rocco. So they are making pressure on Visa/MC and Epoch. And with „wokeness“ you can mobilize a lot these days even if your opinion is the minority.

I know it´s not Pierres Choice. But if really all this will happen, and if everything is true, it will affect all Porn Companies. Cause where will be drawn the Line for this. It´s not a question of what The Payment System "want" or "like". In my Opinion it is a question what the Law allows. And if it is not against the law, so why should the Payment Companies stop the Use of their Systems.

It could maybe affect the whole Internet! Everything! Or maybe it is for each country different. In the USA and some other countries for example you can buy Nazi Stuff, paying with credit card. In Germany it is against the law to buy this Shit stuff.

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charliema wrote:
Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:57 pm

I know it´s not Pierres Choice. But if really all this will happen, and if everything is true, it will affect all Porn Companies. Cause where will be drawn the Line for this. It´s not a question of what The Payment System "want" or "like". In my Opinion it is a question what the Law allows. And if it is not against the law, so why should the Payment Companies stop the Use of their Systems.

It could maybe affect the whole Internet! Everything! Or maybe it is for each country different. In the USA and some other countries for example you can buy Nazi Stuff, paying with credit card. In Germany it is against the law to buy this Shit stuff.
In principal you are right: The credit card companies make money when the card is used, so why stop some businesses using a specific card?

Lets assume you are in a state where it is legal to sell certain recreational drugs and you want to accept credit cards.

1) Higher costs because of fraud
As a card company you want the endcustomer pay the bill and no additional "work" after that.

When a business sells drugs it is quite likely that there will be higher percentage of stolen cards used or children use the cards of their parents and or user want refunds because they were not happy with "quality" of the drugs. This all means additional "work" to sort out and cost additional money to deal with.

2) Losing other companies as customer

Here for example your drug business is bringing the credit company 1 million a year in revenue, but a major health food company using your cards is bringing in 500 million in revenue and this company just says if you start dealing with drug companies they take there business to another card company. So you gain 1 million in revenue and loose 500 millions...maybe simply refuse to work with the drug company.... not to talk about any calls to boycott your card company on social media because you "support" the use of drugs...

So all not that simple.... :)

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