Piracy

[octavio01]

Pierre,

I'm very concerned. Privacy has gotten so bad that I can find practically every one of your clips with one search on xxx.com. Even new stuff is available within days!

How can you survive if this is so easy? Why don't you do anything against this?

Your big fan
Octavio

[Dr zaius]

He survives because of loyal fans who understands that a true "woodman lover" allways know that quality work from PW doesn´t come for free

[poonies]

Yes I agree - I could easily stop the membership, but I want Pierre to continue - he has so much content I want to see and if we members pull out then no content. Not every person knows how to access the pirated content either

[PIERRE WOODMAN]

I know it's a problem, already I lost more than 15% of members since the January 1 !!!
It's true, without the loyalty of honest members, I will have closed already ! We will see how will be 2011, and same about Wunf. It's insane and there are no way to fight against thousand of bastards.
I just hope people will understand it one day. The gay industry has already disapeared in Europe, I didn't know but nobody produce anymore any gay movies since two years in Europe. The hetero biz his on the same direction, I wish
the people who download pirated content can understand that ...

PW

[octavio01]

Yes, I fully agree, if we want to see this unique stuff in the future, we have to be honest and stay on as paying members. And we will!

But can't you claim copyright violation if you find your stuff in forums for illegal but free download?

[PIERRE WOODMAN]

Too much lost of time, they kill our business, OK they will get what they want !!! now I will close CLARK EURO ANGEL . COM because it wasn't working as well as Christophe and me expected, and if I see more and more the members going down, I will also stop the others !
The piracy make me sick...

PW

[andy69]

sad to hear about clark euro angels closing! You have some great scenes there, how about posting them on your own website, or merge clark euroangels onto your casting site?

[PIERRE WOODMAN]

I already did it last month !
It's in the hardcore section, but doens't change the problem... If the Christophe site doesn't work better, I must stop it ! It's sad for me too, Chris is a huge friend of 27 years but a site cost money and until now it's just a lost for me because it seems people doesn't wish to give him enough support.

PW

[Renato Videira]

This is sad... Not the only thread on this issue, but I also would like to talk about it a bit.

I'm in the music biz... and piracy is also a big problem. But on this market, bands can make a living out of their concerts. That's how lots of bands use the internet to spread their songs with zero cost and have more people on their shows. But on the porn biz this is not possible. If your content is found free on the internet, then you have no means of making money.

I had to take down some tracks of mine using the DMCA... and it's very time consuming. In my case it worked well, but if Pierre takes down his content from one forum, there will be thirty more by tomorrow! It's a very unfair war.

When Pierre says that this site survives because of the loyal members, I can certainly understand. I'm not currently a member myself, because nowadays I have too many expenses with the band. But I hope the site will still be strong when I have the opportunity to be a part of the loyal supporters.

I first saw a casting from Pierre in a streaming site. My friend sent me the link and I was crazy about it! I like the "try, and if you like it, buy" That's why everyone can listen to my band's songs for free on the internet. All the folks who liked them and purchased, are now loyal fans. So, before I knew this site existed, I was a member of Private's site. Now I only have a membership of a Russian site, but as soon as it ends, I'll have to wait until I can make new expenses. But when this day comes, Pierre's sites are first in line! And I'll tell why:

Even though I love those Russian sites, every now and then I find the very same videos on other sites. I don't know if this is because they're owned by the same company, or buy the videos from the same producer. Anyway... I like the videos, but they're not exclusive, or at least, most of them.

But then you visit Pierre's website... and you find the very same girls that you love from the Russian sites on his castings, among other lovely girls and stars. And you know that this is pure gold. His castings are unique and exclusive. Not like other casting sites do... pretending they're casting... showing money to the girl to convince her... but the girl is usually a very famous pornstar. Who are they trying to fool?

In Pierre's castings, you can see the master's mind in action... persuading the girls... giving them good experiences. I'll be going to Prague very soon... and If I happen (and I hope I'll be this lucky ) to meet a girl that wants to work on the porn industry, I'll sure put her in the magic hands of Pierre. Because he is the best on what he does and is serious about his work.

Now, if anyone thinks that it's a good deal to download illegally the content of this website (such as someone who left a message on another thread regarding the same subject) then this person is nothing but a fool. It's not even free! They might think (and they do) it's free, but on every single site that hosts illegal downloads, you'll open thousands of lame ads. Not to mention trojans, spywares, malwares. You'll be risking your computer and supporting financially spammers (and other kinds of even worse criminals), and on the very top of it, screwing the people who have worked hard to produce that content. I think this is a much higher price to pay. And this is just the digital piracy. There's the physical piracy that's even worse!

I say: There's no place on the internet where you'll ever find this great material if Pierre shuts down this site. Plus, anyone who enjoys these castings is a fan of the man. And please, tell me, where will you find a place where you can actually chat with someone you admire? Here, on the forum, Pierre answers EVERY SINGLE THREAD, even when it's already been asked hundreds of times. This shows his commitment with his fans. And this is something I learned from him that I try to apply to my relationship to my band's fans. Sometimes you can chat with the girls themselves on their threads! Not to mention the live chats in video! And the forum is free! Otherwise, I would have to be just watching the messages or maybe not even being able to read the forum, because most of the sites hide the forum for members (and I'm sure most of them are not half as good as this one).

Anyway, this is a very complicated subject. And lots of things may happen to change it all once again. Here's what I do: When I download something... A movie or a TV show, it's ALWAYS because they're not available in my region. For example, I recently downloaded a French movie called "Le Placard". It's nowhere to find it here where I live. But I loved the movie, and bought the DVD. I also got the Monty Python movies after watching them on YouTube. I have lots of boxes of DVDs from American TV shows. And I always download the episodes as soon as they are aired, because I just can't wait. I have hundreds of CDs and thousands of books. And many of them, I downloaded first, because they were not available for me and were too expensive to give a shot on the dark. That's why I like the "try and buy". I'm sure that the next revolution on the internet will make the try and buy a system that works for everyone, customers and producers.

Everything is changing very fast on all kinds of business because of the internet. But the way it's going for most of the traditional ones, soon they will all collapse. But I'm confident that someday we'll have another revolution on the internet that will save them all. Until then, though, it's up to us to support one another, and keep the good things rolling.

I think I wrote a little too much! Sorry folks!
I hope I haven't written much nonsense!

Anyway... I hope this message will inspire people for the good and when Pierre reads it, his mind translates it into a big: THANK YOU FOR YOUR GREAT WORK AND FOR BEING A GREAT INSPIRATION!

[PIERRE WOODMAN]

THANK YOU !!!
Renato you're a good guy, your message is full of energy and wishes !
I need more people like you to be members on the site.
I hope all wil be fine one day but I think it's just a dream... Hope that WCX will continued having success because I know there are millions of suporters behind me !!!

PW