randomguy wrote:Any news regarding clarkeuroangels? It seems site is abandoned by Christoph. No updates for more than 2 weeks, and forum is overloating with spam messages, 2 months ago i heard it will start with regular updates very soon, maybe it means more time but any info would be very helpful!

@Randomguy
From another topico on this site!
Like I said, I think maybe would be better to integrate (merge!) it with here.
For examples, make a new extra tab/button called "clark" (see attachment) and include it in WCX subscriptions.
Clark scenes are good, but to make site successfull you need more regular updates. To be honest, I think it maybe would have been better to stay with DVD releases or lots more updates like on dis site. Also, maybe it is too early for clark to have own site,,,,maybe he first needs to have more materials so he can also post more if he needs or feels like it.

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:Too much lost of time, they kill our business, OK they will get what they want !!! now I will close CLARK EURO ANGEL . COM because it wasn't working as well as Christophe and me expected, and if I see more and more the members going down, I will also stop the others !
The piracy make me sick...

PW

andy69 wrote:sad to hear about clark euro angels closing! You have some great scenes there, how about posting them on your own website, or merge clark euroangels onto your casting site?

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:I already did it last month !
It's in the hardcore section, but doens't change the problem... If the Christophe site doesn't work better, I must stop it ! It's sad for me too, Chris is a huge friend of 27 years but a site cost money and until now it's just a lost for me because it seems people doesn't wish to give him enough support.

PW

It wasn't possible to integrate at 100 % Christophe site because of the money income had to be separate from the rest in order to not create any eventual fight between us !
I can do it with Wunf because it's mine but on CEA, the content are not mine ...

PW

maybe there is some hope still that the site will start working soon. In clark's New DVD there is a 9min AD for the clarkeuroangels site

giggeli wrote:maybe there is some hope still that the site will start working soon. In clark's New DVD there is a 9min AD for the clarkeuroangels site

That's the whole problem with clark's site, people are not even sure if it's officialy working or is it still in the process of making, even Christoph posts some messages that he's still waiting for "this" and "that" and then he'll start with the site on full cylinders. So it's realy confusing. I think that u have to put more effort in the marketing side coz obviously just redirection from WCX site is not enough.

I also think that lack of effort in forum is a big problem, when people see that the owner, legendary producer Christoph Clark is there for them, even once, twice a day, they are more familiar with the place, they like to stay, buy some clips, etc. especialy since there is nothing much more than clips section and forum.... the site itself won't work if there is no effort from the people involved in it.

Christoph got top material and top girls, but i wish he would put more exlusive materials on site, not only re-release of dvd scenes, coz lately it's mainly those updates.

Christophe has given some exclusive material and did many effort to make his fans happy, but nothing changed.
When WakeUpNfuck arrived on the hardcore page of WCX it has multiplicated by 8 the number of viewer and by 3 the money income on this site.
But with Clark Euro Angels it has changed something for five days and then nothing ...
It's sad but I will close it on june 1st ...

PW

I'm saddened but the fact that site didn't turned out that great, but honestly, u can't expect the site to make a huge success when the updates are irregular, with 2-3 weeks break, and 80% of them is re-release of dvd scenes (which most people interested in Christoph work already got)... u have to put a carrot on the end of the stick at the beggning, start with some best material u got, exlusive material which would draw attention of people, u say Pierre u put exlusive materials on CEA, tell me how many videos was it in those couple of months? 3-4 scenes? WCX has exlusive stuff every week, so the math is simple... beside Christoph was so optimistic about the site not so long ago, promising to put lots of new, unreleased updates "very soon", and it didn't happen, as i said only re-releases, and even those very seldom.

U can't blame only piracy and lack of support, which is of course part of the reason porn is in weak condition, but also u have to look at ur mistakes, or things u need to improve to make it better.

I just hope if Christoph is reading this he'll try to draw some conclusions and maybe give the site some more time, with more regular updates... i can honestly say i'm very interested in his exlusive material, coz most of the scenes that are in the video section i already got on dvds and downloads.

just had to check if i can find any piracy stuff of clarkeuroangels and i couldnt find any so i doubts thats the problem. Also checked pierres stuff and WOW you just type on google the girls name and woodman and its in first page sometmes before pierres official site, now that must suck

giggeli wrote:just had to check if i can find any piracy stuff of clarkeuroangels and i couldnt find any so i doubts thats the problem. Also checked pierres stuff and WOW you just type on google the girls name and woodman and its in first page sometmes before pierres official site, now that must suck

There is a clear explanation for why Pierres page does not come as the first search result even when searching for girls name + woodman and it is that the page is not search engine optimized (SEO). I have raised that issue several times but Pierre does not have time or is not interested in making the page more search engine friendly and revamping the design. He should copy some ideas regarding website design from Bangbros. They make boring videos (compared to the premium quality of Pierre) but their websites are really well designed and very well optimized. I bet that their conversion rates are higher than Pierres even if their videos can be found in every corner for free.

I just stumbled upon an affiliate of Pierres http://woodmancastings.net/ and even he/she has a better optimized website.

What can I say, alle dese guys make perfect points.
Its either make cheaper the 30 euro's per month and in stead less say 15 euro's per month. Or Christophe "needs" to update more regularly like Pierre. Also, customers are not dumb,,,,real fans already have scenes that have appeared on one of his DVD's or on evilangel VOD (video on demand) site. I think it is not done to market dese as "exclusive" new updates on clark euro angel. It is really as simple as that. I believe these bois above me where they say piracy is NOT to blame for not good ratings of the christophe site! Its eather up or out as they says. Its time for christope to up his game (read: more excluse updates, every week), or make cheaper monthly fee. 29,90 is too much. Not enough "bang for your buck" compared to the online competitors like less say bangbros,brazzers, inthecrack etc.!!!! It would be sad to delte the Christophe site, cuz I think it had (has) potential!! Also what dese bois here above says, forum has got to go. Obviously he has not time nor good times on forum. But Randomguy, less face it, I juss checked, you are maybe one of 2 or 3 persons who ask stuff regularly on his forum and participate. Thats no fun for you, fellow members as well as clark.

Thanks for sharing my opinion WFX, i thought maybe i'm the only one U summed it up great - not enough exlusive materials/too much old stuff. Beside same dvd scenes are at other Christop's site, christophlarkonline, so it realy doesn't make much sense to double it here, this site should be more devoted to his new material.

About forum, i know it's not the most active place, but i think if Christoph would be more often than people would have eventualy come and start posting more, anyway, all have been said, now it's either Christoph decission to try to win back customers or call it a day, without giving his best shot, coz he promissed much more than this.