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PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Tue Feb 08, 2022 10:06 am

But yes maybe next step will be a better and smarter one for her !!!

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You mean, next step without her boyfriend as her manager, haha

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Jia not needing Manager. She winning already many award and be famous with many money.

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Im a changed man now! Whatever mess i did i paid for it! Karma is a bitch! I paid twice the price! I want to issue sincere apologise to all those i have offended in one way or the other! I lost my grandfather 15 days back! I am a changed man now but yes very passionate abt porn and girls

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Darklordreturnsagain wrote:
Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:53 pm
Karma is a bitch! I paid twice the price! I want to issue sincere apologise to all those i have offended in one way or the other!
You see, on Woodman site, everything is possible, even miracles.

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I told it hundred of times but will repeat again …
AWARDS ARE JUST BULLSHIT AND DON’T BRING ANYTHING !!!

Look at me … not been to any awards ceremony since 2008 and … did this as changed my life ??? NO
Did the fact I won many awards in Vegas or Europe has changed my life ??? NO ( only make my ego happy )

From 1980 to 2005 the AVN awards was important for the companies because when a video tape was release again after been rewarded, they put the awards logo on the tape and it was boosting the sales in shop.
But nowadays nobody care those stupid ceremonies managed by sponsor who decide who will get what !!!
When a producer in 2022 book a girl, it’s for her beauty and sexual skill not for the awards she got, and even sometimes it’s a way not be booked when you have a producer nervous that a girl get rewarded for a job with a competitors having paid but less good than what he did with her himself !!!!

It’s enough to read here how some guys complain about the scene for what Jia went rewarded in Berlin ( thanks Tushy to be the sponsor of this night ) to understand how I can be better in some cases never been the « one » !!!

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“Nobody is jealous of the losers, only the winners attract the jealousy and hatred of idiots. That explains who my enemies are!”
I feel 2024 will be my best year ever !!!

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PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Tue Feb 08, 2022 11:44 am
I told it hundred of times but will repeat again …
AWARDS ARE JUST BULLSHIT AND DON’T BRING ANYTHING !!!


PW
Then why the angry response? Is it because your competitor take the award? Awards are prestigious and it means they are recognized for what they did and It can open new doors for them.
PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: Look at me … not been to any awards ceremony since 2008 and … did this as changed my life ??? NO
Many people don't win awards but they still attend to meet their colleagues and friends and for the experience. It's not about having the mindset 'I don't think I will win so I won't attend'
PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: It’s enough to read here how some guys complain about the scene for what Jia went rewarded in Berlin ( thanks Tushy to be the sponsor of this night ) to understand how I can be better in some cases never been the « one » !!!
This sounds a bit like weird and jealousy to me. So are you saying that Jia's performance was not good enough to merit an award? Why would you try and bring the gurls happy moment down with your negativity towards her award. When she first won her 'Female performer of the year' you congratulated her, but now it looks like you want to discredit her because you don't like Julsmodels. Correct me if I'm wrong but this problem between you and Julia Grandi started when you specifically disobeyed her request not to do anything with Jessica Portman. You were supposed to do only an interview. But you broke the rule and went too far without her knowledge and then broke your friendship with your betrayal. So no need to be angry with her agency and always hatred towards them. It was your fault. Their agency does very good work so have some respect. They deserve their awards. You are the only one throwing shade at your competitors. I don't see them doing it to you.

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Sponsorship means giving money in return for brand recognition! If i pay a a million to AVN OR any other award organisers i dont see myself not getting an award! There is general consensus even amongst her most hardcore fans that anal scene sucked!

Just answer one question to me! What is the money source of these award shows? Producers make money from subscribers! Pornstars make money from subscribers and producers! How do award shows make money?

I have been observing this industry for last 10 years! I have seen many promision pornstars sabotagging their careers by getting into relationship! Once the honeymoon period gets over they realize that people have moved on and somebody else has taken their place! They try hard and then give up! Jia is hot but she must realize that once fans move on nothing can be done! At this stage i believe pierre is the only guy who can resurrect her dying career

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Awards are prestigious and it means they are recognized for what they did and It can open new doors for them.
In Hollywood maybe, but in porn not, it's just bullshit and based on who has paid !!!
I have a box with exactly 53,8 Kg of awards won on various place of the world and I was the first foreigner to go on stage and get the best foreign release at AVN in 1993.
In 2008 january I paid 24 000 USD just for the table in Vegas AVN ( and I had already spent 126 000 USD for the booth + travel and hotel ) but has my company Woodman Entertainment was starting release films since less than a year and I have had my sponsors coming specialy to Vegas to see the AVN I asked Paul Fishbein the owner of AVN to give me at least a simple award for my director work on my Xcalibur production. Never there was a film ( and still ) with 40 females + 35 males performers + 250 extras in a porn movie.
I have spent 5 000 USD /month in AVN magazine from september 2006 till January 2008 ( 85 000 USD + various small add for a total over 120 000 USD in their magazine ) and Paul answered me :
" Sure Pierre whatever you want, we know here all you did for our industry "
So I was happy and in full trust i'll go again on stage and have the possibility to say THANK YOU to my sponsors having helped me to build Woodman Entertainment.
But the ceremony ended without I get anything. I was full of shame front of my sponsors, full of rage for having paid this expensive table and I went out of the room with my wife when Franck Vardon the owner of Hot Video magazine ( and my ex boss 1989/1992 ) came to my back, put his hand on my shoulder and said : "what's happ my Pierrot you look so sad and angry"
I told him I was sure to get an award promised to me by Fishbein and then he said :
"oh poor you , but me I'm so happy, the 12 films I bought the distribution right in europe have ALL got a price, that's so great !"
and then he laughed, patted me on the back and went away.
Next morning I got a call, then a second, then a third from different people who explained me Franck Vardon went to eat with his team and opened a champagne bottle after the ceremony making a "special toats" about how he fucked me up that night.
I discovered Franck asked Fishbein not only prices for the US movies he bought via AVN but also that Woodman got NOTHING at the AVN party. Why ??? because december 18.2007 I was supposed sign a telephone content deal in Paris with the company of Franck Vardon and the day before I decided to sign with Lagardere group offering me much better deal.
So after different trustable sources told me all, I went to meet Fishbein and told him eyes in eyes, I will NEVER come back again to any AVN ceremony. And a week later when back to France I went to meet Franck Vardon in his office and told him I will never speak to him again.
At same time I was leaving his sentence was : " but Pierrot it's just business don't be so sensible !"
Franck killed himself 6 years later in January 2014, ( RIP Francky ), without I never met him after that day.

I could tell so many stories, even I have emails about Xbiz when they had project to start the European ceremony in Berlin but as I am in good term with Alec the owner of Xbiz, I'm not gonna say more ...

Anyway @IndianaBones
please don't try explain to an old gorilla like me how to eat banana !!!
Many people don't win awards but they still attend to meet their colleagues and friends and for the experience. It's not about having the mindset 'I don't think I will win so I won't attend'
This sentence means clearly you don't know anything about how all is working ...
Of course when you are a nice pretty girl and you are INVITED to those ceremonies, you have the chance to :

- meet your friends ( even fake one and haters )
- play the diva and been taken in photo by all photographers SELECTIONNED PRECISELY for this event
- maybe been part of a company who has paid not only for a table but also for an award and then you can go on stage and have an "awardgasm" front of everyone !!!
This sounds a bit like weird and jealousy to me
Jealousy of what ??? Don't you think if I decided after 2013 not go back to Berlin Venus it's because I have understood the real value of everything ???

I had a booth wit 15 girls and I spend 44 000 euros for that shit. It was cool Berlin, lot of fun and great time, but sorry as I already said on TV in 1998 after I won for second time the Hot d'Or in cannes :

"It's nice to receive awards but for me the important thing is the fans and not pieces of scrap metal placed on my chimney !!!"
( BTW this sentence was the sword who cut my head with Franck Vardon ( owner of the Hot d'Or ) because next day after my words was on TV he called me and said :
"You are not worthy of the honor bestowed on you"
when he hung up, my ex wife Tania Russof told me : " I hope you have understood that you will never win again any Hot D'or "
I laugh and told her it was nothing but she was right ... my only award in Hot d'Or after 1998 was for girls working with me but me the one and only I have got after that was from .... Paul Fishbein coming in Cannes in 2000 to delivery the awards of the best foreign movie of all times and it was for "Tatiana".
The most funny in this was the Fishbein sentence in my ears that evening " Pierre you know with us ( AVN ) there is always an award for you !!!
Sad he forgot it in 2008 ... :lol: :lol: :lol:
So are you saying that Jia's performance was not good enough to merit an award?
I never said that and I can't judge that !!! I like and respect Jia but some members here have the right to say their opinion about anyone and you share it or dislike it but do not attribute me what I never said !!!
Correct me if I'm wrong but this problem between you and Julia Grandi started when you specifically disobeyed her request not to do anything with Jessica Portman. You were supposed to do only an interview. But you broke the rule and went too far without her knowledge and then broke your friendship with your betrayal.
Yes you're MEGA wrong !!! Jessica Portman was in september 2019 and after that I worked with Julia's models.
The reason why I end up with Julmodels was because I did not want they put in their model house which was at this time MY PROPERTY, a pedophile called Yukki Amey !!! Very simple. Brillbabes and Sandy's model had fired her and I kindly asked Julia not take her in her agency but she did it and send her to Rocco Siffredi.
Then I asked her not make someone loving hurt child sleeping between my walls, but she refused to do it and Yukki was sleeping in my place. It has been the drop that broke the camel's back and few days later Julia had to give me back the key of the model house. I recorded all ...
Their agency does very good work.
Sure but not neccessary about what you think ... and I'm cool not say more !!!
You are the only one throwing shade at your competitors.
I think I am a small player compared to what some people say about me ...
Look at my words used when I speak about others and consider that when I say something I have the proof and the term are far from what many people use about me.
On Pornbox forum they have a thread that I stopped look since last year where they even use my child and wife in their hate war.
I can't do that, so I think I'm cool in what I say here and me at least I have the balls to say the thing with my name when most of the little cowards rats opening their mouth hidden behind a keyboard just deserve a bucket of shit on their face !!!

How do award shows make money?
If you read what I said above I guess you can understand between the tables, the entrance tickets, the banners from Sponsors etc ... they do A LOT OF MONEY !!!
Even I have had to pay 177 $ that AVN send me my Sex City awards they wasn't able to give me at the ceremony in 2007 !!!

At this stage i believe pierre is the only guy who can resurrect her dying career
:lol: :lol: :lol: You like play ... I'm really tired of this, really ...
Same people come always to make this thread up.
If Jia wants see this thread active for a REAL REASON, then she only needs come to see me and work for this site.
But trying to use plans in disguise to make it up will push me at a moment to lock it if it continues in a such stupid way ...

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I feel 2024 will be my best year ever !!!

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Darklordreturnsagain wrote:
Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:13 pm
At this stage i believe pierre is the only guy who can resurrect her dying career
:lol: :lol: :lol: this girl don't need anyones help. If you didn't notice she is doing better than most. She can also pick and choose when and who she wants to work with.Her agency will handle this. Why work 10 jobs when you can work once every once in a while. She's always on holiday with her BF. She's probably even making more money on onlyfans than her porn career. Her following is huge.

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It's possible yes ... I don't say the opposite !!!

But in my opinion she could do much better considering her capacities !!!

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“Nobody is jealous of the losers, only the winners attract the jealousy and hatred of idiots. That explains who my enemies are!”
I feel 2024 will be my best year ever !!!

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