Europe need leaders like him !!!
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The refugees coming to Europe
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“Nobody is jealous of the losers, only the winners attract the jealousy and hatred of idiots. That explains who my enemies are!”
I feel 2024 will be my best year ever !!!
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Re: The refugees coming to Europe
I agee with yu Piere, Victor Orban is a good man and politican. He holds the wellbeing of his People in first place while western europe politicans deliberately take into account the killings, rapes and robberys of their "Bürger" by asylum seekers and criminal foreigners.
Just today another terror attack happened in Germany Münster with 3 dead people.
Just today another terror attack happened in Germany Münster with 3 dead people.
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Re: The refugees coming to Europe
Get your information right. The attacker was a german psychopath.Kopf wrote: Just today another terror attack happened in Germany Münster with 3 dead people.
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Sometime I wonder if they really said the truth about who is what and I am ultra suspicious about the fact they always kill the guys when it's possible to get them alive so easy. And when they get one "alive" like it's happen once, the dude has nothing to tell at all.
But anyway all this is so sad for all dead people and their families ...
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But anyway all this is so sad for all dead people and their families ...
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“Nobody is jealous of the losers, only the winners attract the jealousy and hatred of idiots. That explains who my enemies are!”
I feel 2024 will be my best year ever !!!
I feel 2024 will be my best year ever !!!
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BERLIN — Avraham Granov joined a fitness club in February, visiting two or three times a week.
Soon other members started making comments to him suggesting Jews control the world and the Palestinian territories should be free.
Granov is an Orthodox Jew who wears a kippah, the traditional Jewish head covering, but hides it with a hat in public.
While Granov admits such remarks aren't a "catastrophe," they have left him rattled and, like a growing number of Jewish residents here in Germany’s capital, he says he feels a little less comfortable than they once did. He now goes to the gym less often and seldom after dark.
"I feel it," he told NBC News.
Anti-Semitism is a particularly sensitive issue in Germany, given its history. Incidents that may not make headlines elsewhere, or would be quickly forgotten, provoke bouts of soul-searching here.
Chancellor Angela Merkel recently warned that a "different type of anti-Semitism" had taken root in the country, highlighting the far-right as an issue but also blaming "refugees" and "people of Arab origin." Her government appointed a new commissioner to fight the problem.
On the surface, Jewish life in Berlin is flourishing. Two weeks ago, the Chabad Lubavitch synagogue celebrated five births, a bar mitzvah and an engagement. The city is home to several kindergartens, two schools and eight synagogues, and a new Jewish community center is planned.
But other parents at the religious school where Granov sends his son cite an unsettling number of low-level incidents of anti-Semitism that seem to have increased in recent years.
Some tell of being spit at on the street or been the target of slurs, while others report hearing migrants speak threateningly about Jews in Arabic.
It all adds up to an increasing feeling of discomfort for many of Berlin's 9,000 Jews. Some are now hiding their religion, guarding it as a secret.
"It has changed a lot here in the last few years," said Dwora Kahanovsky, a teacher at a Berlin Jewish school who lives in a neighborhood that is also home to many recent arrivals from abroad. "I feel like we get stared at often and the other week a group of migrant girls made spitting sounds at my husband as he walked past. I try not to attract attention. My kids call me 'ima' [Mommy] in Hebrew and I have told them not to scream it when we are out in public."
“I’ve never seen the worry that I have in the last three months.”
“I’ve never seen the worry that I have in the last three months.”
In the seven decades since the end of World War II, Germany has refused to gloss over its Nazi past. Holocaust education is mandatory in schools, and in the late 1980s and early ′90s the country welcomed tens of thousands of Jews from the former Soviet Union.
“For many Germans, no one in their right mind would be anti-Semitic and there is an astonishment that they have to deal with it again,” said Doron Rubin, the head of Berlin’s Kahal Adass Jisroel community organization.
Making such amends is also widely seen as playing into Merkel’s decision to open Germany's borders to migrants in 2015, when around 1 million asylum-seekers reached the country, which had a population of 81 million. At times more than 10,000 people were arriving daily. Some migrants brought a hatred of Israel and belief in conspiracy theories involving Jews with them.
There are around 100,000 Jews in Germany, and the vast majority are relatively secular and don’t outwardly display signs of their faith.
However, an Israeli Arab who wore a kippah in Berlin last month as an experiment was subjected to verbal abuse and was lashed with a belt by a teenage Syrian refugee. The incident was captured on video and quickly spread on social media.
When word of the attack spread, several cities around Germany hosted kippah marches with participants of all religions wearing the traditional head covering in solidarity.
The success of far-right populists at the ballot box has also set off alarm bells. The anti-immigration Alternative for Germany (AfD) party won more than 5.8 million votes in parliamentary elections in September — or around 13 percent of the ballots cast.
Felix Klein, the federal government's new commissioner tackling anti-Semitism, has accused the AfD of helping make such views “presentable” again by challenging a longtime consensus about how to deal with the country's fascist past.
Referring to Berlin's Holocaust memorial, one senior AfD politician last year said that "Germans are the only people in the world who plant a monument of shame in the heart of the capital.”
However, Klein said that "discussion about drawing a line" under the Holocaust "is very dangerous."
While the Jewish community is closely monitoring the rise of the AfD, the views and actions of the more than 1 million migrants who arrived since 2015 is a more immediate concern for some.
“Jews live side by side with migrants more than with the right-wingers who are often in rural areas or outside big cities,” said Sergey Lagodinsky, who is Jewish and a community board member in Berlin.
The number of anti-Semitic crimes in Germany increased by 2.5 percent during 2017, according to official figures. Overall crime was down by 9.6 percent last year.
Interior Minister Horst Seehofer said that while "imported anti-Semitic crimes" were rising, he pointed out that "almost 95 percent of anti-Semitic crimes in 2017 had a right-wing motive."
'Islam does not belong to Germany,' country's new interior minister says
Either way, anti-Semitic incidents — which include those not considered criminal offenses — do appear to have been rising as a whole.
In 2017, 947 anti-Semitic incidents, including 18 attacks, were reported in Berlin to Research and Information on Anti-Semitism, an organization founded to record and publicize such events — no matter how small. The group said that represented a 60 percent year-on-year increase in reports.
They include several cases of Jewish children attending schools with large Muslim populations who transferred after classmates had taunted or mobbed them.
Liam Rueckert, 15, says he was subjected to such severe abuse at school last year — he said classmates would call him "s--- Jew" or "s--- Israeli" in German — that he refused to attend. He is now enrolled in a practical skills training course instead.
“It happened at least once a week,” Rueckert said. "Nothing happened to them. I would never go back.”
Muslim community leaders say concerns about anti-Semitism among migrants and their children is exaggerated and lets the far-right off the hook for its intolerance.
“Even if every Muslim was anti-Semitic, which would obviously be bad, they aren’t the ones who rule here,” said Dervis Hizarci, the head of the Kreuzberg Initiative Against Anti-Semitism, which works with young people brought up in Muslim communities in Berlin.
There are nearly 5 million Muslims in Germany, around 6.1 percent of the population, according to the Pew Research Center.
Hizarci is no stranger to intolerance himself. A former high school teacher, he was once turned away when trying to rent an apartment because of his Turkish roots.
According to Hizarci, refugees tend to easily learn tolerance because of their backgrounds in facing persecution themselves.
"Germany has difficulty accepting that it is an immigrant country," he added. "With the migration crisis it got even more complicated."
Graffiti artist and shop owner Ibo Omari is trying to spread a similar message in his neighborhood.
Two years ago, a customer told him that a Nazi flag had been painted at a local playground.
Instead of erasing the swastika, Omari used spray paint to turn the image into a mosquito flying into a net.
He repeated the trick whenever a new swastika popped up.
“The problem is that many people don’t feel at home so they don’t feel responsible,” said Omari, 37, whose mother was born in Turkey and his father in Lebanon.
Through a nonprofit organization called The Cultural Heirs, he now runs graffiti workshops for children — including many from migrant families — to give them a feeling of belonging to their community.
Whether such local efforts are enough to change what the Jewish community believes is a growing problem remains up for discussion.
Jewish community leaders are pressing the government to implement further tolerance and anti-Semitism education in schools, as well as to send a strong signal that migrants with anti-Semitic views aren’t welcome.
Klein, the commissioner appointed by Merkel's government to coordinate activities against anti-Semitism, started in the post on May 1.
“Of course we have a new challenge and new forms of anti-Semitism which we have to address and combat, but the great problem also rests with right-wing anti-Semitism and we have to develop good strategies to combat that, as we did before," he said at a news conference in late April.
But Rabbi Yehudah Teichtal, of the Jewish Community of Berlin, insisted that tackling the issue needs to be made more of a priority.
“I’ve never seen the worry that I have in the last three months,” Teichtal said.
Someone in a passing car shouted an anti-Semitic slur at Teichtal as he walked home from synagogue on a Friday evening with his 5-year-old son several weeks ago.
“I’m telling the government they need to do more," he said. "I’m an optimist though. We are here to stay and full of trust, but more has to be done.”
Soon other members started making comments to him suggesting Jews control the world and the Palestinian territories should be free.
Granov is an Orthodox Jew who wears a kippah, the traditional Jewish head covering, but hides it with a hat in public.
While Granov admits such remarks aren't a "catastrophe," they have left him rattled and, like a growing number of Jewish residents here in Germany’s capital, he says he feels a little less comfortable than they once did. He now goes to the gym less often and seldom after dark.
"I feel it," he told NBC News.
Anti-Semitism is a particularly sensitive issue in Germany, given its history. Incidents that may not make headlines elsewhere, or would be quickly forgotten, provoke bouts of soul-searching here.
Chancellor Angela Merkel recently warned that a "different type of anti-Semitism" had taken root in the country, highlighting the far-right as an issue but also blaming "refugees" and "people of Arab origin." Her government appointed a new commissioner to fight the problem.
On the surface, Jewish life in Berlin is flourishing. Two weeks ago, the Chabad Lubavitch synagogue celebrated five births, a bar mitzvah and an engagement. The city is home to several kindergartens, two schools and eight synagogues, and a new Jewish community center is planned.
But other parents at the religious school where Granov sends his son cite an unsettling number of low-level incidents of anti-Semitism that seem to have increased in recent years.
Some tell of being spit at on the street or been the target of slurs, while others report hearing migrants speak threateningly about Jews in Arabic.
It all adds up to an increasing feeling of discomfort for many of Berlin's 9,000 Jews. Some are now hiding their religion, guarding it as a secret.
"It has changed a lot here in the last few years," said Dwora Kahanovsky, a teacher at a Berlin Jewish school who lives in a neighborhood that is also home to many recent arrivals from abroad. "I feel like we get stared at often and the other week a group of migrant girls made spitting sounds at my husband as he walked past. I try not to attract attention. My kids call me 'ima' [Mommy] in Hebrew and I have told them not to scream it when we are out in public."
“I’ve never seen the worry that I have in the last three months.”
“I’ve never seen the worry that I have in the last three months.”
In the seven decades since the end of World War II, Germany has refused to gloss over its Nazi past. Holocaust education is mandatory in schools, and in the late 1980s and early ′90s the country welcomed tens of thousands of Jews from the former Soviet Union.
“For many Germans, no one in their right mind would be anti-Semitic and there is an astonishment that they have to deal with it again,” said Doron Rubin, the head of Berlin’s Kahal Adass Jisroel community organization.
Making such amends is also widely seen as playing into Merkel’s decision to open Germany's borders to migrants in 2015, when around 1 million asylum-seekers reached the country, which had a population of 81 million. At times more than 10,000 people were arriving daily. Some migrants brought a hatred of Israel and belief in conspiracy theories involving Jews with them.
There are around 100,000 Jews in Germany, and the vast majority are relatively secular and don’t outwardly display signs of their faith.
However, an Israeli Arab who wore a kippah in Berlin last month as an experiment was subjected to verbal abuse and was lashed with a belt by a teenage Syrian refugee. The incident was captured on video and quickly spread on social media.
When word of the attack spread, several cities around Germany hosted kippah marches with participants of all religions wearing the traditional head covering in solidarity.
The success of far-right populists at the ballot box has also set off alarm bells. The anti-immigration Alternative for Germany (AfD) party won more than 5.8 million votes in parliamentary elections in September — or around 13 percent of the ballots cast.
Felix Klein, the federal government's new commissioner tackling anti-Semitism, has accused the AfD of helping make such views “presentable” again by challenging a longtime consensus about how to deal with the country's fascist past.
Referring to Berlin's Holocaust memorial, one senior AfD politician last year said that "Germans are the only people in the world who plant a monument of shame in the heart of the capital.”
However, Klein said that "discussion about drawing a line" under the Holocaust "is very dangerous."
While the Jewish community is closely monitoring the rise of the AfD, the views and actions of the more than 1 million migrants who arrived since 2015 is a more immediate concern for some.
“Jews live side by side with migrants more than with the right-wingers who are often in rural areas or outside big cities,” said Sergey Lagodinsky, who is Jewish and a community board member in Berlin.
The number of anti-Semitic crimes in Germany increased by 2.5 percent during 2017, according to official figures. Overall crime was down by 9.6 percent last year.
Interior Minister Horst Seehofer said that while "imported anti-Semitic crimes" were rising, he pointed out that "almost 95 percent of anti-Semitic crimes in 2017 had a right-wing motive."
'Islam does not belong to Germany,' country's new interior minister says
Either way, anti-Semitic incidents — which include those not considered criminal offenses — do appear to have been rising as a whole.
In 2017, 947 anti-Semitic incidents, including 18 attacks, were reported in Berlin to Research and Information on Anti-Semitism, an organization founded to record and publicize such events — no matter how small. The group said that represented a 60 percent year-on-year increase in reports.
They include several cases of Jewish children attending schools with large Muslim populations who transferred after classmates had taunted or mobbed them.
Liam Rueckert, 15, says he was subjected to such severe abuse at school last year — he said classmates would call him "s--- Jew" or "s--- Israeli" in German — that he refused to attend. He is now enrolled in a practical skills training course instead.
“It happened at least once a week,” Rueckert said. "Nothing happened to them. I would never go back.”
Muslim community leaders say concerns about anti-Semitism among migrants and their children is exaggerated and lets the far-right off the hook for its intolerance.
“Even if every Muslim was anti-Semitic, which would obviously be bad, they aren’t the ones who rule here,” said Dervis Hizarci, the head of the Kreuzberg Initiative Against Anti-Semitism, which works with young people brought up in Muslim communities in Berlin.
There are nearly 5 million Muslims in Germany, around 6.1 percent of the population, according to the Pew Research Center.
Hizarci is no stranger to intolerance himself. A former high school teacher, he was once turned away when trying to rent an apartment because of his Turkish roots.
According to Hizarci, refugees tend to easily learn tolerance because of their backgrounds in facing persecution themselves.
"Germany has difficulty accepting that it is an immigrant country," he added. "With the migration crisis it got even more complicated."
Graffiti artist and shop owner Ibo Omari is trying to spread a similar message in his neighborhood.
Two years ago, a customer told him that a Nazi flag had been painted at a local playground.
Instead of erasing the swastika, Omari used spray paint to turn the image into a mosquito flying into a net.
He repeated the trick whenever a new swastika popped up.
“The problem is that many people don’t feel at home so they don’t feel responsible,” said Omari, 37, whose mother was born in Turkey and his father in Lebanon.
Through a nonprofit organization called The Cultural Heirs, he now runs graffiti workshops for children — including many from migrant families — to give them a feeling of belonging to their community.
Whether such local efforts are enough to change what the Jewish community believes is a growing problem remains up for discussion.
Jewish community leaders are pressing the government to implement further tolerance and anti-Semitism education in schools, as well as to send a strong signal that migrants with anti-Semitic views aren’t welcome.
Klein, the commissioner appointed by Merkel's government to coordinate activities against anti-Semitism, started in the post on May 1.
“Of course we have a new challenge and new forms of anti-Semitism which we have to address and combat, but the great problem also rests with right-wing anti-Semitism and we have to develop good strategies to combat that, as we did before," he said at a news conference in late April.
But Rabbi Yehudah Teichtal, of the Jewish Community of Berlin, insisted that tackling the issue needs to be made more of a priority.
“I’ve never seen the worry that I have in the last three months,” Teichtal said.
Someone in a passing car shouted an anti-Semitic slur at Teichtal as he walked home from synagogue on a Friday evening with his 5-year-old son several weeks ago.
“I’m telling the government they need to do more," he said. "I’m an optimist though. We are here to stay and full of trust, but more has to be done.”
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Re: The refugees coming to Europe
This time round it's maybe for different reasons. Think about what they have been doing to the Palestinians and the Syrians and so on.
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Jüdischer Künstler warnt: „Zuwanderung ist das größte Problem“
Arik Brauer hat den Anschluss Österreichs an das Deutsche Reich 1938 als Kind persönlich miterlebt. In der letzten ORF-Diskussionsrunde „Im Zentrum“ sorgte der jüdische Künstler und NS-Zeitzeuge Arik Brauer am Sonntag für Wirbel. Die Diskussion stand unter dem Titel „1938 – Der Anschluss“. Brauer ließ die restlichen Diskussionsteilnehmer ordentlich auflaufen!
So attestierte er unter anderem Burschenschaftern entgegen dem medialen Mainstream keine wie auch immer geartete Gefahr für Juden zu sein, nannte hingegen Araber als klare Bedrohung für die jüdische Bevölkerung, die die Juden „am liebsten unter der Erde begraben sehen würden“. Diskutiert wurde unter anderem über die „Verführbarkeit“ der Menschen und dem „Wunsch nach einem starken Führer“, der sich aktuellen Meinungsumfragen zufolge in den letzten zehn Jahren erhöht hat.
Besonders interessant erschienen unter Beachtung der Medienberichte der vergangenen Wochen – Stichwort Liederbücher – die Ausführungen des jüdischen Künstlers Brauer, welche die restlichen Diskussionsteilnehmer förmlich erbleichen ließen. Entgegen den „furchtbaren“ Bildern, die der Moderator Tarek Leitner in entsprechender Gestik und Stimmhaltung zeichnete und die ihm dann auch von Ex-Bundespräsident Heinz Fischer bei der Frage nach den „braunen Flecken“ in Österreich bestätigt wurden, malte Brauer ein gänzlich anderes Bild.
So sagt er in Bezug auf die antisemitischen Liedertexte, die man bei der Pennal-Burschenschaft Germania fand: „Als Österreicher ist das natürlich zum Kotzen, das ist unangenehm und sehr schädlich für Österreich und schade, dass so etwas passiert.“ „Als Jude sage ich ehrlich: Das ist mir ziemlich wurscht!“ Zusätzlich: „In Österreich gibt es fast keine Juden, nur 10.000, das ist keine Sache woraus man ein Problem machen kann.“
Er geht gleich zum – für ihn – „viel schwereren“ Problem über: „Die Einwanderung.“ „Das ist das Problem und das ist die Grundursache für dieses Aufkommen von rechtem Gedankengut in jeder Hinsicht.“ Zur Liedzeile mit der siebten Million sagt er: „In Bezug auf Antisemitismus fange ich nicht an zu zittern wenn ich so etwas höre, keineswegs“. Er relativiert sogar den Liedtext und attestiert, dass der Text „zumindest beinhalte, dass tatsächlich sechs Millionen vergast wurden.“
Und er gibt einen Einblick, wie es aussieht, wenn realer Antisemitismus herrscht: „Ich habe erlebt wie es ist, wenn hunderttausend Menschen am Heldenplatz rufen: ‚Juda verrecke!‘ Da wird dir kalt über dem Rücken.“
Er hält fest: „Der Rechtsruck hat seine Grundlage in der Einwanderung.“
Und obwohl ihm Leitner und Fischer dann gleich wieder entgegnen, wie schlimm das Ganze nicht trotzdem sei, erklärt er noch, wen er als wirklichen Feind der Juden sieht: „Es gibt eine Viertelmilliarde Araber, die wollen uns lieber unter der Erde oder am Grund vom Mittelmeer sehen.“
https://www.wochenblick.at/juedischer-k ... e-problem/
Arik Brauer hat den Anschluss Österreichs an das Deutsche Reich 1938 als Kind persönlich miterlebt. In der letzten ORF-Diskussionsrunde „Im Zentrum“ sorgte der jüdische Künstler und NS-Zeitzeuge Arik Brauer am Sonntag für Wirbel. Die Diskussion stand unter dem Titel „1938 – Der Anschluss“. Brauer ließ die restlichen Diskussionsteilnehmer ordentlich auflaufen!
So attestierte er unter anderem Burschenschaftern entgegen dem medialen Mainstream keine wie auch immer geartete Gefahr für Juden zu sein, nannte hingegen Araber als klare Bedrohung für die jüdische Bevölkerung, die die Juden „am liebsten unter der Erde begraben sehen würden“. Diskutiert wurde unter anderem über die „Verführbarkeit“ der Menschen und dem „Wunsch nach einem starken Führer“, der sich aktuellen Meinungsumfragen zufolge in den letzten zehn Jahren erhöht hat.
Besonders interessant erschienen unter Beachtung der Medienberichte der vergangenen Wochen – Stichwort Liederbücher – die Ausführungen des jüdischen Künstlers Brauer, welche die restlichen Diskussionsteilnehmer förmlich erbleichen ließen. Entgegen den „furchtbaren“ Bildern, die der Moderator Tarek Leitner in entsprechender Gestik und Stimmhaltung zeichnete und die ihm dann auch von Ex-Bundespräsident Heinz Fischer bei der Frage nach den „braunen Flecken“ in Österreich bestätigt wurden, malte Brauer ein gänzlich anderes Bild.
So sagt er in Bezug auf die antisemitischen Liedertexte, die man bei der Pennal-Burschenschaft Germania fand: „Als Österreicher ist das natürlich zum Kotzen, das ist unangenehm und sehr schädlich für Österreich und schade, dass so etwas passiert.“ „Als Jude sage ich ehrlich: Das ist mir ziemlich wurscht!“ Zusätzlich: „In Österreich gibt es fast keine Juden, nur 10.000, das ist keine Sache woraus man ein Problem machen kann.“
Er geht gleich zum – für ihn – „viel schwereren“ Problem über: „Die Einwanderung.“ „Das ist das Problem und das ist die Grundursache für dieses Aufkommen von rechtem Gedankengut in jeder Hinsicht.“ Zur Liedzeile mit der siebten Million sagt er: „In Bezug auf Antisemitismus fange ich nicht an zu zittern wenn ich so etwas höre, keineswegs“. Er relativiert sogar den Liedtext und attestiert, dass der Text „zumindest beinhalte, dass tatsächlich sechs Millionen vergast wurden.“
Und er gibt einen Einblick, wie es aussieht, wenn realer Antisemitismus herrscht: „Ich habe erlebt wie es ist, wenn hunderttausend Menschen am Heldenplatz rufen: ‚Juda verrecke!‘ Da wird dir kalt über dem Rücken.“
Er hält fest: „Der Rechtsruck hat seine Grundlage in der Einwanderung.“
Und obwohl ihm Leitner und Fischer dann gleich wieder entgegnen, wie schlimm das Ganze nicht trotzdem sei, erklärt er noch, wen er als wirklichen Feind der Juden sieht: „Es gibt eine Viertelmilliarde Araber, die wollen uns lieber unter der Erde oder am Grund vom Mittelmeer sehen.“
https://www.wochenblick.at/juedischer-k ... e-problem/
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Re: The refugees coming to Europe
English ou francais s'il vous plait.
Re: The refugees coming to Europe
please use google translate.
its a jewish Artist who delares that Immigration is the main problem behind antisemitism. and he further declares he is not afraid of ring wing politicans but of muslims.
its a jewish Artist who delares that Immigration is the main problem behind antisemitism. and he further declares he is not afraid of ring wing politicans but of muslims.
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On the news now...
Some guy in Paris shouting Arabic started stabbing the shit out of people. Killed one and wounded a few others in the Opera District. ISIS has already claimed he is one of their soldiers.
Some guy in Paris shouting Arabic started stabbing the shit out of people. Killed one and wounded a few others in the Opera District. ISIS has already claimed he is one of their soldiers.