This is a project by former porn actress Paige Jennings/RedHeadRedemption on YT back in the days know as Veronica Vain. She goes by her real name now so no privacy worry about me calling her by it. She is fully hopen to link her real name to her former porn name.

I am gonna put the link of the video as she explain it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h172wyZr7I&t=605s

But basically in a nutshell, she is more or less trying to make a "Netflix of porn" as in a place where content from multiple compagnies would be available, with some OG content in the mix, and from what i get for a fair price. Basically she is trying to cather to the peoples who use free tube site and giving them a reason to pay for there porn. So instead of cutted version and a free for all of content of various qualities, it would be very origanized and full quality scenes etc.

Personally i am very curious to know how its gonna go. She has already got 80 000$ from "crowd investors". Think of it as like Kickstarter in a way. She aim for 100 000$ total and she just started to get donations like 2 weeks ago.

Personally i love the idea. She is realistic too, she know that she will never be able to get 50% of those "free market" consumers etc, but if only she can get 10% and add to them peoples that already pay for porn, that could be a lot.

When we talk porn there is always this same thing that come back again and again. Its too expensive ! Thats what most peoples will say. At an average price of 30$US per month for most website, a moderate consumer won't really be able to subs to more than 1 or 2 at the same time. Obviously you can always subscribe for a month to one, cancel, subscribe to another one the next month etc but thats a lot of hassle especially with these auto subs webbite for 99% of the time. You always have to manually unsub.

A la piece porn is always way overpriced, at 20$ a scene... cmon. I saw dogfart couple days ago release some a la piece for 4$ a scene, i tough this is good pricing. I would love to see more of that too in the futur. But 20-25$ for a 12min regular B/G clip... nah.

But my point is when you look at Netflix at 10$ a month, for all the hours of entertainement it give, all the Original content + Hollywood third party, its worth it. In term of porn... you have to produce a shit ton to justify that 30$us fee.

Onlyfans are a new thing and usually price nicely at 15$ a month, but there mostly amateur content and stuff made "quickly", of course it vary from pornstars to pornstars and im sure some are worth much more than others.

Also im well aware that porn in general is very different from one consumer to another. I see guys who tip 50$ for the sake of it just for fun to camgirls etc. Hell even in non porn media like twitch video game streams i see huge ass donations when peoples don't have to at all. Some peoples have lots of money and are more than willing to spend it. Others like me a more conservative especially since i don't make a ton. So yeah im the kind of guy to subscribe for a month, download as much as i can during that month and then cancel... and i do the same after with another site. I will come back to site 1 when there is enough new material that interest me etc.

So thats why FOR ME this new "Bang Box" idea (thats how she call it) seem pretty fucking great.

Im curious to know what you would think of it Pierre, if you will have the same disgust for it as you do free tube sites. Cause obviously its different, no user uploaded stuff there, and compagnies WILL HAVE to be on board for there content to be showcase there. But its still "third party" hosting your stuff. So thats why im asking.

Idea basicaly is very good but pirate will steal content immediately and there will be no difference as for all regular producer they will cry !!!
Or mabe behind there are some "money landery" and then it's organised by tubes owners. I hope not ...

PW

good idea, but even if you are selling porn for one cent per month a lot of people will steal it. Looks like a kind of sport.

OnlyFans is the worst thing to ever happen for porn fans. The girls charge $15-25 a month for each girls section showing photos and videos. That's a lot of money for a handful of content (some of which is already online on tube sites). If you like a bunch of girls that can get quite expensive.

The girls today are builded by us and also on top of piracy, destroy our business with Snapchat, etc ...

PW

Hum this is a very different way to see it.

I personally think doing snapchat and onlyfan is actually a clever way to market themselves. Not saying its fun to pay 15/20$ monthly for every girl you like, again if your like me and are on a limited budget, you may have to "switch" your pledge from months to months, but for them its a clever way to make money.

I heard doing porn scenes is not bringing that much money... Often the girls are paid in one shot something like 800/1000$ but then the website use that scene for years and years...

Obviously this point of view will vary from porn producer to porn performer

To go back on the original thread subject (Bangbox) , obviously piracy will happen. I mean its part of the "deal" in porn. I know producers don't like it, obviously, but at this point its something you have to live with and consider piracy as "natural losses".

The question is to know how well can it do compare to other services that are actually available (who also deal with piracy).

Piracy exist since ever it was possible. Im sure most of us here have copied casette tapes of music using a double deck radio when we where younger. Im sure most of us had there friend burn them a CD when it was the "new thing". We all recorded movies from TV on a VHS as well...

The digital era just made this accessible more. Consumer will say its great, producers will say it sucks. I understand both point of views. No need to go back to that subject, i made lenghty post on it before in the other thread

Im really eager to see if Paige's project will actually materialize and see the impact it may have in the porn world. Im genuinly exited for this and if its as good as she say it is, im definately gonna take a subscription.

I just had a long chat with her !!!
Yes she is building something cool and I will collaborate to this project because she is a very serious person and I like her.
PW

This seems to be a very interesting and hopefully also promising idea, and she is probably the right person to realise it in terms of wits and professional background (both porn and economics ). Glad to hear that you're gonna be involved, Pierre!

There is another (older) video where she explains her motivation and the problems she encountered in detail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLXohBBJ1PY

Nice ! I know you 2 know each other well, but i still feel kinda happy to have brough it here if it helped put you back into contact

The Dude, but in fact we have always keep in touch her and me by messages because I think we both have huge respect and high appreciation for each others.
She contacted me but it was secret and yes you put it under light here but she was already speaking on You Tube.
Anyway thank you for having opened this tread, it was a good idea !!!

PW