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PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:Nice post but then if it's so good the piracy, why I don't like it, and why 80 % of the production have disappaeared or are on the way to mostly after they sold their business to ... pirates groups !!!

You sample about other business are speaking about people having made 100 times their money back before to care about anything.
Me too if tomorrow I have 50 000 members here, I will not care of piracy ...

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Yes exactly my point and why i said the Porn Industry is hit much much harder than the "other regular" industries. I said "hot" but it was a type, meant "hit" and i couldn't edit lol.

I heard that its because of the porn industry choosing the VHS that it became the number 1 media and pretty much killed BETAMAX despite it being better overall. In those days porn on VHS was huge. But even in the mid 2000s i was renting porn from the video store (oh the memories of the shame putting this on the counter before a hot clerk...) and i would notice there was not that much DVDs actually. Lots of VHS. Shortly after i got a better computer and high speed internet came around in my local town. Its like internet came around at a similar time as the switch to DVD and therefore it never properly happened. Obviously yes some movies are still made in DVDs and Blu ray today but porn is mainly an internet thing now.

This is pretty much around the same time the actresses of the VHS era started to quit (Jenna Jameson, Tera Patrick and others) and with them the big compagnies died or became much much smaller. Hell i learned the other day that Wicked was still around. I had no idea... I used to rent/buy lots of there movies back then.

Vivid at some point was pretty much THE compagny when you tough Porn. I just checked there website (to see if they where still around) and when you arrive on the main page it seem that the Kim Kardashian sextape and other "C-list" celebrities are the main focuss. You check the pornstars and you see girls like Tiffany Taylor or Breanne Benson who quited years ago... :lol:

They don't seem to be up to date at all. Its like they couldn't make the switch properly in time and got declassified by Brazzers when it came around (and other clone websites like it)

Its interesting because it lead me to former Pornstar Veronica Vain who has now open a Youtube Channel under her real name. She is pretty open about it and talk porn all the time and have storytime about her porn experience. Saying this just so you know i am not "outing" her in any way lol. So because of her popularity as a porn star she managed to get a following on youtube, small at first but the more she made content the more she got, and now she is i would say kinda popular as a youtuber because she marketed herself nicely. The good part of this story is that because of her following, she was able to resurect her former project call "Bangbox" wich is some digital porn distribution platform. She give a tiny % of ownership to the "backers" that help her fund the project.

Its in infancy stage for the moment but im really eager to see where it will go cause her project seem much more interesting than any tube site or whatever. It was with a subscription and all but promised lots of content easily accessible for your favourite stars.

ANYWAY where i am going with all of this is that the porn market has evolve, like a lot. From 2002's Vivid days to 2005 or so (the beginning of Brazzers) to 2012 and co when HD became the norm and scenes started to be much nicer to look at in general to NOW in 2018 where we are.

Piracy is a thing that will always exist and existed in the past. I still remember when me or my friends would buy a new music casette tape, we would have our 2 radios close to one another trying to record the music out of the original casette to make a copy for the other friends, not making any noises while it was going but ocasionally you would have a dog bark or something popping in :lol: then one of us got the double trey radio and it was so much better to copy cassettes. We did it to movies 2 with 2 VCRs. We didn't even knew it was "piracy" back then, for us it was just normal. Bunch of kids trying the small money we had. We would also borrow NES games from one another etc.

Internet only made it a much much bigger scale to a point it started to hurt the industries. The music industry adapted after having a hard time like i said in my previous post.

The movie industry , well its true some movies it does not matter that some peoples pirate them as you say Pierre, they already make there money back x10. But some indy studio who release great content still struggle. I remember Scott Adkins asking fans to specifically buy Boyka 4 if they wanted a fifth movie. He said he didn't care if peoples downloaded it for free to see it early as long as they ended up buying it, wich is what i did cause the movie took 3 months to come in Canada after the initial release. Even bough an extra copy for my cousin. Im all to encourage compagnies in those cases.

And to go full circle and get back to porn, obviously we are at a crossroad. Some dinosors are dying or dead (as i said above) while other compagnies adapted. But its much harder for indy and niche content maker.

Thats why i would say it would be a good idea maybe to try the tube sites again. Lots changed since 2011. And as you say even if you pay peoples to do DMCA claim or what peoples commonly refer as "copyright trolls", one will go away and 2 more will pop out.

I see a lot of niche content also joining a network or "portal". This can be a solution maybe too.

In any case all of what i say here is obviously just my personal opinion and i am by no mean a pro wall streek analyst or whatever :lol: Just an "old" porn fan who started watching in the early 2000s and saw the major major evolution of the market.

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“Nobody is jealous of the losers, only the winners attract the jealousy and hatred of idiots. That explains who my enemies are!”
I feel 2024 will be my best year ever !!!

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Not the first time this happen. Its like when kim dot com from megaupload was arrested and condemned. The key word there is that these peoples MAKE MONEY out of the traffic in publicity. The smart ones manage to host the websites in countries where they won't have problem, they use loopholes and trix and this is why they manage to continue operating. Often when one is close, 2 new ones open up.

Nothing new in all of this.

The law will never bother to go after individuals who just stream a movie or download it. Cause if they did that, they would had to go after like 50% of the population of earth ...

It is possible internet compagnies get more restrictive and may block websites etc, but this is why VPN are gaining in popularity.

Personally i call this the law of the 3 Ps, wich is basically something illegal but law don't really care.

Piracy
Pot (Weed)
Prostitution

Those 3 things are thecnically illegal, but as long as you don't disturb the population or get reckless, you will never have problems. They sometimes bust weed distributors but everytime they cease some, there is 2x more ready to go and somebody else will do it. Citizen X will always be able to buy his weed, be it legal or not.

Same for prostitution, as long as you call escorts to your hotel room, obviously aged 18+ and doing this job from there free will, police will never bother you.

And finally Piracy its the same... if you download for yourself and do not intend to make money out of it or anything, they will never bother going after you.

This is basically illegal things that are tolerated. I would be very surprise if this change.

But yes from time to time they will always make the websites close, arrest the webmasters who make money out of it trough ads, then 1 week later or less another guy will re-open a new place and things will continue. Thats life... :roll:

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And finally Piracy its the same... if you download for yourself and do not intend to make money out of it or anything, they will never bother going after you.
Not true, some guys has got huge fees to paid in France already for having download pirated content ...

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An individual that only downloaded for himself with no intend to resell or distribute? I am really surprise. If you still have quick acces to the article/story, i would love to read it.

I never heard of any stories like this in Canada. Actually from what i read (i may be wrong but its the way i saw it) the maximum fee you can be charge (thecnically) in Canada is 5000$ wich on paper is a huge sum for mister everybody, but the lawyers fees and time it would take to take someone to court for 5k would really not be worth it for any compagnies. Thus why i never heard of any stories of any compagnies (movies porn or hollywood or music) going after a single individual.

Not to mention all the legal mumbo jumbo they would have to prove that this is indeed this person who downloaded it. With Network shares, dynamic IPs and such, not that easy.

I know our penal system is known to be very "slack" compare to the USA (and maybe France too) but i would be shocked to see a piracy download case go to the tribunals. They don't have time to waste on this. Le system judicière est deja engorgé comme pas possible.

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“Nobody is jealous of the losers, only the winners attract the jealousy and hatred of idiots. That explains who my enemies are!”
I feel 2024 will be my best year ever !!!

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Merci. Interessant comme article. Mais on vois quand même un peu le topo. 72 comdamnation en 10 ans, beaucoup etant des "amande symbolique" selon l'article.

Le passage a la fin est particulierement intéressant.
Hadopi reste confiante : 50 % des pirates à qui elle a envoyé un premier mail d'avertissement arrêtent de télécharger.
Moi je crois surtout que la majorité regarde pour un VPN :lol:
Mais sa mission ne se concentre que sur une partie du piratage illégal : le téléchargement peer-to-peer via des logiciels comme Bittorrent. Le téléchargement direct et le streaming illégal restent en dehors de son champ d'action.
Voila le gros truc important aussi. La plupart des gens savent que le peer to peer/bittorent est rendu risqué de nos jour. Sa prend un VPN pour faire sa, c'est trop facile de recupéré l'adresse IP dans un swarm sans parlé que l'argument principal est le fait que vu que ces du peer-to-peer, tu ne fait pas que telecharger le fichier mais tu le distribue aussi !! :idea: C'est sur sa qu'il base leur attaque principal.

Le telechargement direct et le streaming en sont exclu comme ils disent. Ces derniers d'ailleur ne font aucune distribution de la pars du downloader, ce qui change la donne pas mal.

Je sais pas si tu as lus les commentaires, j'en ai lus une partie et sa en dit long...

Ces clair que si on prend le nombre de comdamnation versus le budget de ce projet/loi c'est assez abérant...

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Un passage interessant d'un autre article que je lis en ce moment.
Les internautes qui regardent des films ou des séries ou écoutent de la musique en streaming n’ont rien à craindre de la part de la Hadopi en premier lieu parce qu’en ce qui concerne la loi telle qu’elle se présente au jour d’aujourd’hui, rien n’interdit de le faire. En effet, il s’agirait là d’un recel ou d’une complicité de contrefaçon, un délit encore absent de la jurisprudence. L’utilisateur de ces sites n’ayant pas téléchargé et donc stocké de fichiers sur son ordinateur ne se rend donc coupable d’aucun délit puisqu’il n’a de toute évidence pas rendue plus aisée la consommation ou la préparation de la contrefaçon en question. En effet, la loi sur le droit d’auteur est basée sur la maîtrise de la diffusion de l’œuvre, il s’agit de s’attaquer à celui qui la transmet, la distribue ou la diffuse à autrui et non à celui qui y accède ou la reçoit.
https://www.vpnmag.fr/contourner-hadopi-avec-un-vpn/

Même si se sont des lois francais et que sa me touche pas directement, sa m'interesse quand même, je suis curieux ;)

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TheDude wrote:… An individual that only downloaded for himself with no intend to resell or distribute? I am really surprise. If you still have quick acces to the article/story, i would love to read it.
Even in the old Napster days of pirating music, there were from time to time articles about private users being sued for ridiculous amounts of money by the RIAA (Recording Industry Association of America), I remember a housewife, whose son allegedly downloaded mp3s from her computer without her knowing and then faced a multimillion dollar claim.
Now where that lead ultimately, I didn't follow, but it's of course a tactic to remind the individual users that they, too, can be held responsible for their actions, even if the likelihood is not exactly high (and also dependent on the country they reside in).

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Hadopi c'est de la merde, on le sait tous. J'espère juste qu'un jour tous ça va changer.
je n'en veux pas trop à ceux qui subissent l'envie de charger des videos piratée mais quand je vois des mecs qui s'abonnent ici pour ensuite balancer mes videos partout, franchement ceux là, ce sont vraiment des gros connards et ils ne cherchent qu'à bousiller mon travail rien d'autre !!!

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