Is porn immoral in the age of #MeToo?

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Is porn immoral in the age of #MeToo?

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I enjoy PW's porn and other porn sites but as I get older I'm beginning to think whether porn is degrading to women? Isn't it just exploitation of poor and naive young women who need money or are having other problems in life? Does a beautiful 18 year old girl from Eastern Europe or anywhere really want to have her asshole fucked by men old enough to be her father/grandfather, gaped, have two dicks, in the ass & pussy, and to drink piss? Sure, they 'choose' to do this but if you are only doing it for money (99% of porn actresses) is it really a free choice? I think the Nordic Model argument against prostitution also can apply equally if not more to the porn industry. In a way it is worse because once your video is online it is there on the internet for ever.

I know it's hypocritical of me to be a member of a porn site and ask this but I am just thinking out aloud. What do you think?

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For me yes, it's a free choice from women to do all this kind of stuff, Luna Rival for exemple, she's not from a "poor family" and didn't realy need porn for living, but she enjoy licking old men asshole and get fucked by them, take also the Zee Twins, nobody putted a knife under their throat to go in a dark place and get their asshole detroyed in a way they cryed after this in toilet, so why would i feel something is wrong when i watch this on my labtop ? Everyone is adult and responsibles, also, in porn, we can see everything with our eyes and hears what the girls are saying in thoses moments, who can tell that if weinstein putted a camera in his room and recorded his sex moments with the girls, we wouldn't heared girls saying all kind of nasty pleasure words ?
Also true victims of dirty rapes are going to the police the morning after the rape, and they get not raped again, 10 times by the same man...

So this is the difference and it's what i personaly love in porn, we see everything and can judge with ours own eyes.

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#metoo is just a propagand like we have seen born so many since the arrival of social media. They do already #porntoo and I wonder why I haven't seen yet a #dumbtoo in order to finalise the exercice !!!
But yes no one force anyone to do anything in my place, I record all I do and my security videos have been very usefull in the actual court case of Derek Hay who just told me now things are starting to be very different than they were supposed to be at the begining and I am so glad been able help him.
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ll girls going to police to declare they was raped are liars and of course I'm the first to wish all rapist to get punished but sadly I have been confronted in various situation to women trying to extort my money after a guy send them to me in this intention and my clever attitude with cameras BTS since 1992 saved me from the clear fact I will have no chances to proove I was innocent.
So yes it's a hard time now for men everytime they take a lift, or are seat down in a car, or any place where they are only two !!! I became so suspicious that I record ALL when I am with a girl without any witness around ...
And you Sybarite2016 your question is really stupid because as far I know it's not only the "poor eastern girls" who are licking my old ass ... When an american 18 years old do it, is she a "poor girl from USA", or when Laure Zecchi who has a salary of 4200 euros/month lick ass, drink piss and even clean up dirty shitty dick and enjoy it, is she "a poor french girl" ??? Of course not, nobody think that way ... and this is a formal proof of the actual stupidity around !!!
if you are only doing it for money (99% of porn actresses) is it really a free choice?
There are many other way to do money than just lick old ass ... if you take this decision it's your choice and until you are over 18 it's legal without anything to tell.
I think the Nordic Model argument against prostitution also can apply equally if not more to the porn industry
Sweden is the place of record in term of rape actually, so maybe this top idea was not the best one ...

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Also if we listen to Twitter and Medias nowadays, almost everything become immoral, but nobody can tell what those "perfect people" judging the world on Twitter are doing in their private lifes... if porn is "immoral" then what about facebook and snapchat ??? theses are the true poison that push lot of young people to commit suicide with the online harrassements, porn surely don't push those who watch it to suicide.

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I agree at 1 0000000000 % !!!!
Social medias brings chaos everywhere and yes are much more dangerous for youth than porn.

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In my view pretty simple:

if you have to make money you pick the best option available for you.... for some girls it is doing porn.....
If you take away the porn option that would push the girls to an option they consider worse than doing porn.....Not sure how that will improve the world....

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Of course it's true than porn is a better option than escorting.
But I'm nervous that people think ALL girls does porn just for money. For instance recently Laure Zecchi and Alisia Wonderland came to me and never paid attention about how much they will get. They where just interested by the sex they will get.
Katarina Rina did not want get paid, I found out after the casting the real reason why she came to me and I was shocked even if it is not the first time I saw this.

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I don't want to argue about 'porn' vs. 'escorting' but probably majority of porn girls also go to escort in London, Germany, Austria and especially Switzerland. Why? In some Zurich brothels the girls make 280 euros per 30 minutes. That is without extras like CIM and anal which are standard in porn. Anal is 200 CHF extra minimum! CIM is 100 extra. Very few escort girls will do swallow! These are in-the-club rates. If you want to take the girl out it is minimum 1000 euros.

So it makes economic sense for a girl to do a few porn scenes to get 'famous' then make real money escorting. There is one girl from your (old) casting who is in Switzerland and charges 2000 euros minimum for 2 hours with her in a hotel!

Girls like Laure Zecchi who do porn just for fun or they love sex are the exception not the norm.

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MeeToo has nothing to do with morality, it has a lot to do with infantilisation of society and women. 20 years ago women were much more emancipated compared to now. Now the predominant belief is that women are like children and are so vulnerable and guilable to men, who are mostly evil and praying on them. Many women believe that and develop paranoia and anxiety towards interacting with men. Men are rightfully afraid that the next girl will be some spiteful bitch that will ruin his life, just making some unfounded and unverifiable claim that he violated her. Becoming a victim is becoming center of attention and becoming celebrated for the "courage".
The result of meetoo is that people will be afraid to interact with each other and that is the most evil thing I can imagine.
Regarding porn and girls, I think many of you foster the mainstream media narative that only desperate poor girls get tricked into porn and mostly men watch porn. Well I had the same beliefs but life showed me that we (men and women) like exactly the same things, women watch as much porn as us if not more, women enjoy the same fetishes, extremes as we do. I know more girls who are addicted to porn than men. The current situation with slut shaming and paranoia exacerbated this phenomenon and it is really sad.

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In france, anxiety and paranoia disapear completely if the woman see that the guy is Black or Arabic, because the first one have a big dick, and the second can get some nice smoke stuffs that can make her get high.

Also the
women are like children and are so vulnerable
is indeed a very nice "fairy tale" that is propaganded by some specific lobby, but in realty women are harsh and very strong, just listen to the rubbish expression "don't break my balls" they use almost every time now, like if they are men, also listen when they say "looool, i want i kind guy, romantic, gentle" after 6 month you see them with a badboy who treat her bad and who don't give a shit about her, so the "see women like fargile porcelain dolls" argument is just a joke.

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