Pierre wrote: So except a war ( I hope not ) I don't see what can stop the progression of Islam

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Yes, we can! We should defence and force our human Values/Menschliche Werte, they are still not existent in the Islamic world! Magyarország, Hrvatska, Slovenija, Češi, Slovensko and Србија/Srbija -> All this great Countries protecting it against Islamism!! You can't do your porn shoots without this countries

The futur will said who has been right at this game but not sure the pacte of the 4 ( Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary ) against migrant and the referendum of Hungary by vote soon, will probabily not have a long life under the high pressure of Germany.
But what I know as a person travelling a lot, is the fact there are peace in those 4 countries when you have war in France.
Walking in the street in Warsaw, Prague, Budapest or Bratislava is not the same as walking in the street in Marseille, Lyon, Nice, or Paris ... and now Barcelona, Roma, Bruxelles and sadly London represent a permanent danger, giving stress to citizen there and it's not something acceptable.
I have my childrens in France and even them who were telling me 10 years ago that my ideas about security were "too much", today agree 100 % with me and are scare every minute when walking in the street. Is it the conception of freedom to be in your city and feeling bad about all around you ??? I don't think so ...
And the worse is, NO ONE OF OUR POLITICIAN IS ABLE TO RESOLVE THE PROBLEM because they can't ... Today they fight like chicken in the court about who is responsible of this chaos, the President Hollande is supposed be an idiot but who has changed the Police in France, taking off 12 000 position and closing the "renseignement généraux" ( a special service of agents based on information who was so important ) and who has changed the system making the police inspectors having 2 boss instead of 1. Now they are noted by their direct hierarchic boss but also by a judge but if the judge and their boss disagree on something they are in trouble to know who they have to follow, so often they hesitate about decision. I have still a lot of friends in Police and many complain a lot about this. It's also Mr Sarkosi who had this wonderful idea. But Hollande did not change it ... and if French think tomorrow Marine Le Pen will be able to change something, that will be even more the chaos because even if she decides to send back home the 200 000 people without papers ( not sure she will find them LOL ) what she will do with the millions and millions who have a french passport ?
They don't speak so much about the fact most killers of the 4 european terror attack since last year, had "French" passport or French citizen cards. Not all of them but for instance the Nice killer had a "titre de séjour french" even after been in jail for high violence. What a weak justice we have in France !!!

I will not tell his name because now we are almost at the court level with the guy from my team I fired last year ( he send me 476 voice messages and 742 SMS of insult between February 2015 and June 2016 when I had to finaly go to police against him for death threat ) . But when you think this guy told me himself at the time we were friend that he is arrived with his parents + 5 brothers and sisters illegally hidden in a boat in 1978, he never worked really officially in France but since 1995 he got equilvalent of 700 euros from the french government without doing nothing when my father having worked like hell all his life got 850 euros of pension. And they are millions like this man who now he has a french nationaly tell me in voice message
" Fucking French I wanna murder your parents and bring 20 friends to rape your wife ".
Nice if you think about all I did to help him for almost 15 years ...

Already when I was a cops, I remember in 1985 in the area of Goutte d'Or in Paris, there was lot of North Africans playing card in the street and drinking tea. Some of them was laughing at us " hey guys why are you working, why don't you make 10 childrens like us, your gouvernment will give you much more money for this than your salary !!!" and the problem is, they were absolutely right.
So those community did many child, never taking care about them, let them growing up in the violence of the street and became for many of them hoodlums ...
In Hungary they have 20 000 north african on 10 millions people. Here they are kind, integrate, they respect the country and they don't have 10 childrens at home because here there are NO HELP or SUBVENTION FROM THE STATE if you are not 100% hungarians since at least 3 generation. Now they just did a program to help demography by giving credit to build home to all Hungarian making 3 childrens but only if they are 100 % hungarian. It's impossible anyone, even a french having married a Hungarian, could get a cents from this.
So they are smart, they don't attract any external invasion causing troubles in future.
When I go to shop owned by arabians in Hungary they are really nice people, absolute normal as any other person and this is how should be our world but sadly Europe has made so many mistakes and we paid a heavy price for this now.

Here are 2 sentences who resume all what happens now :

Houari Boumediene algerian president in his speech to the UN in 1974:
"One day millions of men will leave the Southern Hemisphere to go to the Northern Hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it. And they will conquer with their son because the wombs of our women will give us victory with more force than any weapon. "

Houari Boumediene président algérien dans son discours à l’ONU en 1974:
«Un jour, des millions d’hommes quitteront l’hémisphère Sud pour aller dans l’hémisphère Nord. Et ils n’iront pas là-bas en tant qu’amis. Parce qu’ils iront là-bas pour le conquérir. Et ils le conquerront avec leurs fils car le ventre de nos femmes nous donnera la victoire avec plus de force que n'importe quelle arme.»

Turkish President Tayyip Erdogane when he was prime minister in 2012 in a public speech in the city center of Istanbul about the refusal of Europe to include Turkey as a member:
"The mosques are our barracks, the minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers and because of your democratic laws we will invade you, and because of our religious laws we will dominate you."

Tayyip Erdogane actuel President turc quand il était premier ministre en 2012 dans un discours public dans le centre ville d'Istambul à propos du refus de l'Europe d'intégrer la Turquie comme membre :
“Les mosquées sont nos casernes, les minarets nos baïonnettes et les croyants nos soldats et grâce à vos lois démocratiques, nous vous envahirons, grâce à nos lois religieuses, nous vous dominerons”.

Just this should make anyone think seriously ...

PW

Being kind, Liberal, and Politically Correct in western cultures is going to tear this world apart. Those Islamics out to commit terror take advantage of that and are spreading their evil all over the globe a little at a time because the people that want to be good allow it not realizing their children and grandchildren are going to live in very evil times.

Yeah I'm sure things will be so much better when we have fascists and authoritarian strongmen as the heads of every western state. I mean, there's nothing in the history books that teaches us what can go wrong with that

I agree 100% with you Pierre

I'm sure things will be so much better when we have fascists and authoritarian strongmen

A strongman don't need to be a fascist !!! De Gaule was a strong men and not a fascist
We don't need a fascist, we need a man in France like Viktor Orban !!!

PW

Monaco we add to the list?

6 shot dead in Munich. Its going on right now
Ah now reports say 9 are dead and the gunman too. He was an Iranian that had been living in Germany for 2 years. This will be a bitter pill for the German leaders to swallow I think.

The shooter was a German-Iranian, born in Germany. Not a refugee.

anyway, he was a muslim terrorist!!

STOP ISLAMIZATION OF EUROPE!