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Charlie Hebdo: l'immense émotion de Patrick Pelloux:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1Z4rRZfC6I

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Pierre,

First of all I condemn the cowardly attack against the Charlie Hebdo offices. It is an atrocity. However, the terrorists who did this do not represent mainstream Muslims -- they kill anyone who opposes their twisted ideology. Proof of this is that they didn't hesitate to shoot dead Ahmed Merabet,42, who was a French police officer and also a Muslim.

Secondly, most people of the 5 million in France who are Muslims will condemn this terrible tragedy.

I do however agree with you that Muslims who immigrate to the West should integrate into Western society but they shouldn't have to give up their religious beliefs. After all, Zinedine Zidane is a French national hero and he is Muslim, so is Franck Ribery and even porn stars like Yasmine or Dalila etc.!

The problem is not Muslims it is Salafist extremists. Those bastards kill more Muslims than non-Muslims. If France changes from being the country of liberty, egality, fraternity, then the terrorists will have won.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 64283.html

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That was a very interesting story, Mark. I have only met a handfull of famous people in my lifetime, and I treasure each memory. :)

Here is a story about religious satire.
In 1979, Monty Python came out with this movie.
Lifeofbrianfilmposter.jpg
It was very controversial. EMI Films evidently read the script 2 days before the start of filming, and pulled the plug. Ex-Beatle George Harrison, came up with 3 million (pounds) to fund the movie. It was banned in Norway, but not Sweden. It actually lampooned organized religion, not religion itself. It also satirized political activists. Its comedy was both highbrow and lowbrow. One of the Roman character's name was Biggus Dickkus. :lol:
In the movie Brian Cohen is born next door to Jesus' manger in the little town of Bethlehem. As an adult he acquires followers who believe that he is The Messiah. The more he tries to dissuade them, the more they believe in him.
My funniest scene from the movie, is when Judith finds the adult Brian, and they go to his bedroom in his mother's house. The next morning Brian gets out of his bed, and totally naked, he wanders over to the doorway leading to the balcony, overlooking a village square. He pulls open the drapes to let in the light and while standing there naked, sees about a 1000 people looking up at him and shouting "The Messiah". :oops:
I was still somewhat shy in 1979, and I both cringed and laughed out loud in my seat in the theater. The Monty Python group never made a bad movie. Good satire always has a little sting to it. :D

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Few years ago some extremist catholic burned a cinema in France and killed many people because they was going to watch a controversial movie about Jesus Christ !!!
Religions are opium of the population ...

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PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:Few years ago some extremist catholic burned a cinema in France and killed many people because they was going to watch a controversial movie about Jesus Christ !!!
Religions are opium of the population ...

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So called "Republicans" killed a lot of priests during the Spanish civil war. The same did happen during the French revolution, the Russian and the Chinese revolution and with the Khmers rouge.
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sybarite2006 wrote:Pierre,

First of all I condemn the cowardly attack against the Charlie Hebdo offices. It is an atrocity. However, the terrorists who did this do not represent mainstream Muslims -- they kill anyone who opposes their twisted ideology. Proof of this is that they didn't hesitate to shoot dead Ahmed Merabet,42, who was a French police officer and also a Muslim.
1- It is not because you have a Muslim name that you are a Muslim.
2- I don't know if the 2 terrorists did think that this policeman had Muslim roots, but even they would think so it is, for them, a good raison to kill him because they see him as a traitor.
"Les femmes ne recherchent pas le bel homme. Les femmes recherchent l'homme qui a eu de belles femmes." Milan Kundera

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As I predicted when the killing of Charles hebdo had just happened that more terrorist attacks are to come, the whole France has become a battlefield so quickly already and the head of the British MI5 has sounded the alarm that the muslim terrorists are to launch a series of major attacks in the Western countries. :twisted:

All these massacres and bloodshedding will have no meaning unless the western countries can take serious stock of their behaviours in the past and pluck up the courage to change them in the future. They can choose an iron fist approach, appeasement policy, or the ostrich approach by pretending that nothing has happened and carrying on with the current policies. But once the scars from the past have been reopened, it will take a while to get healed again. :(

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I dont know if Marine is the answer to this problem, but I know that Hollande and Sarkozy are not the answer. I live in Málaga, southern Spain, every year I see the ferrys with thousands of people from north Africa going to France, UK, Italy. Many of them are good people and working people, but in the last years, I see much more people dressed in the muslim way, women covered with the stupid niqab, men dressed like if they were in the 19th century... Its insane... Catholic church and the other christian churchs changed a lot in the last century, if the conservative muslims dont change and dont want to understand change, they will will suffer consequences, they have to stop praying 7 times a day! They stop working to pray! Its stupid! Fundamentalists have no space in our society, they destroy everything and everyone. If they want to stay in Europe, even second generation people, they have to put religion in a box, religion its a stupid thing, there's no fucking god, and probably there's no fucking eternity, only bones.

Today Je suis Français, J'aime la France, J'aime la Europe. And above all J'aime la LIBERTÉ !

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Hola Crazy Animal! Eres español? Vivo en España tambien ,en Galicia
Yes, you are right! If people can't adopted in our socity they should be send to pray to their homeland. We don't need to be back to Middle Age!

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Booz wrote:
PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:Few years ago some extremist catholic burned a cinema in France and killed many people because they was going to watch a controversial movie about Jesus Christ !!!
Religions are opium of the population ...

PW
So called "Republicans" killed a lot of priests during the Spanish civil war. The same did happen during the French revolution, the Russian and the Chinese revolution and with the Khmers rouge.
And don't forget that over 5000 Roman Catholic priests were murdered by the Nazis.

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