L'Affaire Derek Hay

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Well it is pretty fucked up to not give the girl the money she made doing scenes because "they are being held ransom because she threatened to leave the agencey". When asked about this Derek said it is true and normal practise. Luckily Adria won the lawsuit and Derek had to pay over 20k to her.

This guy signs the girls for 5 years and if they want to leave he wont let em and tells them to sue him. He will most likely lose in court as he can't own the girls and tell them who they can have sex with. Then the girls face the possibility no company will hire them because Derek will block her for more work and not send his girls to the companies the defies him.

It is also very well established that the escort company works closely with Derek and I am sure even Pierre knows this even if he wont ever admit it.

Lets not even talk about the rape accusations and other shady stuff he does.

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There is what I heard, what I know, what I've seen and what I think !!!
I will not pretend Derek is a perfect man because no one is, but it's a bit easy to send stones on the head of public people once they are exposed to the justice.
I like Adria a lot, but I also like Derek, so I don't want tell here for who I could be more than the other. It's not my job.
I am friend with Spiegler, with Mark from ATM, John at Matrix and I also collaborate with few others. No one is perfect when you speak with the girls there are always a reason for some of them to complain and some others to be happy of their agents.

I have so many time experience of girls licking my ass to the stomac until I am supposed give them a job and then suddently are able to tell shit if they feel angry I don't book them anymore. It's not a simple thing to deal every day with humans been ...

Shona River went to LAdirect and was not happy at all, but now it's Nelly Kent who is there and she is in love of the Derek management.
Different people, different attitudes, different opinions, and when you are on the middle you must be very solid because porn industry is a no merci land !!!

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Derek Hay is in the shit now ! he deserves it !

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He deserves respect more than anything else for what he did since 20 years in our business and all the stars he made !!!
I already told you my opinion in the concerned girls thread where you put that link too.
All this is simply burlesque because :

Charlotte Cross was so excited to do it and she told it everywhere for long time.
Andi Rye knew all what will happened at the end of the video and next day was still making great tweet about her mavelous day before !!!
Shay Evans was so adorable, enjoyed so much the casting in anal that it's herself who proposed to try DP and CAME BACK for it !!! At the end of the WUNF shoot she asked me if she really could come to Europe as I said in the video because she loved so much how we fucked her Ricky and me !!!

In the hearing last week was told that the friendship between Derek and me has build the fact WE ruined those poor girls career because in exchange of money he gave me TOO EARLY THEIR ANAL and DP, it makes me laugh as the best actual porn star in the industry Miss Adriana Chechik started her career the first day with a very rough DP action and we all know how it has affected her to not shoot at this moment more than 700 scenes !!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
It's only WHO YOU ARE WHICH BUILD UP YOUR CAREER and NOT JUST WHAT YOU DID !!!

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Charlotte Cross qui se tire une balle dans le pied en disant mentir sur la vidéo ! Par contre les autres ne semblent pas t'avoir descendues , par contre c'est vraiment triste cette histoire car à ce rythme on ne voudra plus tourner avec des américaines , même les agences feront venir des filles d'Europe !

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Probablement que je sois vieux et con mais il y a des trucs que je ne comprend pas.
Dans tout le ‘cheptel’ de Derek se sont les seules qui se plaignent?
Dans ce monde ou les ‘social network’ sont extrèmement rapides et tout se sait, comment ce fait-il que des stars comme Mazzy Grace, Adrianna Chechik, Mia Malkova, Jade Kush et autres ne prennent pas part a cette affaire?
Si Derek est vraiment une ‘ordure’ comme les plaignantes le décrivent… les ‘stars de LA Direct’ iraient voir ailleurs puisque de la publicité pareille c’est mauvais pour les affaires. Non?
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Absolument !!!
Les plus grandes stars du X americain ( tu as oublié Tori Black ) sont chez L-A direct et ne se plaignent pas !!!
Mais c'est toujours les garces qui foutent la merde. Par exemple vous n'avez pas la première anal de Naomie Wood sur ce site pour qu'elle raison d'après toi ???
Parce qu'elle voulait être payée en cash et que je n'ai jamais payé personne en cash aux USA. Donc à l'arrivée il y a eu facherie entre Derek et Naomie parce que les gens comme moi transfert l'argent sur le compte de l'agence et Derek paye les gens par chèque pour que sa comptabilité soit propre.
Elle a prétexté qu'elle avait ses règles mais apparement Derek l'a chargé d'une amende parce qu'il savait que le temps entre ses règles précédentes et les nouvelles ne collait pas et qu'elle mentait. Donc c'est grave parti en couille mais j'ai la preuve à la fois par sms et verbale aussi que Naomie le traite de salaud de ne pas accepter sa réquète que je la paye en direct. Et comme j'étais d'accord avec ça moi aussi je suis devenu à mon tour un enculé à ses yeux et elle m'a fait perdre Alex Grey que je devais faire aussi mais qui, harcelée par Naomie qui lui disait qu'elle attendrait une éternité pour avoir son cheque de Derek, n'est pas venue !!!
Donc oui il y a vraiment un sacré paquet de pétasses dans le monde et la plupart des filles du porn US sont en tête de liste !!!

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Merci pour cette anecdote 8-)
En fait cela ne diffère pas beaucoup du monde des affaires ou les uns essaient de faire un enfant dans le dos des autres. Plus il y a du fric en jeu, plus il y a des ‘judas’.
A en perdre la confiance dans l’être humain. :twisted:
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Le jugement final donnera raison à l'un des deux camps.
Le soucis de fond c'est que Derek n'est pas attaqué uniquement pour des choses liées à la pornographie. Il faudra donc attendre la fin des débats tout en sachant que ces filles, dont j'ai apporté la preuve visuelle qu'elles ont menti sur la partie X, ont forcément perdu beaucoup de crédibilité pour la suite des discussions.
En clair si elles ont menti pour le X, peut on les croire pour la partie concernant la prostitution ?

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Maybe thread can be moved to Male performers since he was also known as Ben English when he was porn actor?

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